CHOMP CHOMP HISS! - The Reptile Matchup Thread

[THTB]

Johnny Cage is beyond broken with the new patch. His block strings are insane now and he seems to have the advantage on everything. Armor on shadow kick is .....wtf.... Granted I was playing REO but chrisg had the same problems as well.

Something definitely happened to reps xray. Both scoot and I experienced the same thing. I tried to go through a shadow tackle and I got poked out. Scoot got ice cloned... Scoot great meeting ya man hope to catch ya next week.

X-Ray will lose its armor/projectile invulnerability up close, and I think at certain ranges, the X-Ray gains an extra startup animation, so it lands even later than usual.

Cage always had those strings. It was never the patch that buffed him. Just no one knew about it. I knew he was sick up close, but I didn't realize until last night. This character is just dumb...

 

[RapZiLLa54]

I've learned my lessons from using x ray at full screen distances. I keep it mid range so it can't be blocked by some of the faster projectile recoveries like Mileenas sai. Right at the end of the xray I know he can be poked out but this happened where the shadow tackle had traveled about a 1/4 of its distance so it struck me as odd.

From what REO was telling me last night they buffed all of his strings to where hes almost always at frame advantage because he wasn't being represented in the tourney scene. People were saying hes in GOD tier lol

 

[GNG Iniquity]

From what REO was telling me last night they buffed all of his strings to where hes almost always at frame advantage because he wasn't being represented in the tourney scene. People were saying hes in GOD tier lol

Seriously?! :facepalm:

Yeah...time to consider AE. At least I'll eventually get used to Yun being overpowered as opposed to dealing with these changes every single month.

People are going to get sick of this shit, eventually. Is this really how NRS wants to appease the competitive players by just handing out FoTMs?

 

[dribirut]

is anyone having a lot of trouble against raiden. i cannot read him. Whenever i play a descent raiden i get destroyed. his teleport is so fast and right when i start something hell teleport and grab or combo me... his teleport makes the forceball completely useless. dont know what to do

 

[GNG Iniquity]

is anyone having a lot of trouble against raiden. i cannot read him. Whenever i play a descent raiden i get destroyed. his teleport is so fast and right when i start something hell teleport and grab or combo me... his teleport makes the forceball completely useless. dont know what to do

Your best bet is to block high. His 223 is a mid, so do not, block low. He'll attempt to teleport and sweep you to encourage you to block low. Once he teleports immediatly dash, it'll punish it. Raiden is just aggrivating.

 

[EGP Wonder_Chef]

From what REO was telling me last night they buffed all of his strings to where hes almost always at frame advantage because he wasn't being represented in the tourney scene. People were saying hes in GOD tier lol

That's wrong, his chains were already like that.

 

[RapZiLLa54]

Yeah I checked Tom Bradys guide this morning and it is indeed there. REO is just nasty lol

 

[THTB]

Yeah, his strings were already good...just no one used him.

Also, me and REO just had a long session of Reptile vs Reptile...hit the lab with him. Oh my god. EX slow ball...I knew it was super good...but the stuff we learned while playing. It is likely the best EX move in the game, hands down.

 

[THTB]

Just got back from Summer Slam.

Kano vs Reptile...is not that bad. Definitely a 5:5. Slide forces Kano to respect you at midscreen. Also, because Kano can't teleport, EX slow ball works wonders here.

 

[RapZiLLa54]

I'm guessing you're using it and dashing in front and just going into combos or are we talking about something different here???

 

[Kakimori]

Also, me and REO just had a long session of Reptile vs Reptile...hit the lab with him. Oh my god. EX slow ball...I knew it was super good...but the stuff we learned while playing. It is likely the best EX move in the game, hands down.

Do tell! I've been looking for setups to use it in.

 

[THTB]

Pretty much, if you let it get behind you slightly, you can time stuff to where if they try to attack back they risk getting hit by the EX slow ball. Against non-teleporters, you can pretty much use this tactic to just push them to the wall. Pretty much it makes you "safe". The move is so good. I'm pretty sure this is already used by someone out there. It's a lot more useful than I thought before. The space control it allows is ridiculous.

 

[GNG Iniquity]

Yeah, I've been finding Kano, Raiden and Mileena extremely simple these days. I fought a good Jade last night though, that staff combined with her boomerangs and possible resets make it so difficult to get in there. Not to mention her EX invincibility lol

 

[THTB]

Jade is really tough because of glow. It nullifies your projectiles, so she gets in easily and EX slow ball shenanigans are non-existant, basically. All her non-boomerange EX moves make you honest about pressure when she has meter. It's pretty tough, but she's VERY meter-dependent to do a lot, while you are still capable of doing stuff without meter. I think the matchup may end up a 6:4, but right now it feels 5:5.

 

[GNG Iniquity]

Jade is really tough because of glow. It nullifies your projectiles, so she gets in easily and EX slow ball shenanigans are non-existant, basically. All her non-boomerange EX moves make you honest about pressure when she has meter. It's pretty tough, but she's VERY meter-dependent to do a lot, while you are still capable of doing stuff without meter. I think the matchup may end up a 6:4, but right now it feels 5:5.

Yeah, I think we'll start seeing her a lot more in the near future. I may even dabble with her, those resets admittedly look fun as hell haha

 

[THTB]

If people actually tried to learn the game, they'd see how good Jade is lol.

 

[GNG Iniquity]

I really underestimated her low launcher. That thing is nasty good in the corner; which she has no problem getting you in the corner due to her glow! Definitely hope to see her in the tournament scene more. Glad that Krayzie picked her up.

 

[EGP Wonder_Chef]

I actually don't have a problem with Jade.

Me and Krayzie played a lot and it felt more even than I thought it would.

 

[Biohazard]

i ran into a good jade at a local tournament in largo at M&Ms games. she (yes female) was the best ive seen of jade. i had to do more rundown than zone but i wound up winning round 3 due to her blowing 3 bars on ex kicks and allowing me to get in my 3,2,1 whiff NJP combo twice in a row. i immagine we will be seeing more of jade here soon. people online are starting to pick her up also, though no one uses glow online...

 

[Kakimori]

EX Glow is godlike. Definitely one of the top 3 or 4 EX moves in the game imo.

 

[EGP Wonder_Chef]

FYI don't elbow dash into EN Glow. They can punish you.

 

[Kakimori]

EX elbow dash might go through to the other side, though. Haven't tested it. Basically whenever I see EX Glow I say "Time to block".

 

[GNG Iniquity]

How do you approach Kitana? Her fans kept me out, I was afraid to dash due to fear of being lifted into a largely unbreakable combo, her fan pokes are so fast and she can pressure. Also, the last time I checked, x-ray will not go through her fans due to them being two projectiles.

I fully underestimated a smart Mileena, also. D3 is a fast poke with good range, fuzzy blocking works like ass online btw. I should've punished those blocked telekicks with more throws.

 

[RapZiLLa54]

Pretty much, if you let it get behind you slightly, you can time stuff to where if they try to attack back they risk getting hit by the EX slow ball. Against non-teleporters, you can pretty much use this tactic to just push them to the wall. Pretty much it makes you "safe". The move is so good. I'm pretty sure this is already used by someone out there. It's a lot more useful than I thought before. The space control it allows is ridiculous.

Finishing up your bnb combo with 321- ex sfb- dash leads to a lot of madness.

Its a 1 meter combo breaker. Or if they choose to block one of the things I like to do is go into a few block strings and then once the ex sfb hits-grab. If you time it right, you're looking at around 20% damage with block strings plus grab. Note this can't be done in the corner because for some reason when the ball hits it bounces you back as if you did an Acid hand.

 

[RapZiLLa54]

How do you approach Kitana? Her fans kept me out, I was afraid to dash due to fear of being lifted into a largely unbreakable combo, her fan pokes are so fast and she can pressure. Also, the last time I checked, x-ray will not go through her fans due to them being two projectiles.

I fully underestimated a smart Mileena, also. D3 is a fast poke with good range, fuzzy blocking works like ass online btw. I should've punished those blocked telekicks with more throws.

Is that with the new patch??? My friend mains Kitana and I use my xray just fine against her fan toss.