My QC match up chart

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Baraka- 5:5
Cyber Sub-Zero 6:4
Cyrax 5:5
Ermac 4:6
Freddy 3:7
Jade 6:4
Jax 5:5
Johnny Cage 4:6
Kabal 3:7
Kano 6:4
Kenshi 3:7
Kitana 3:7
Kung Lao 4:6
Liu Kang 3:7
Mileena 5:5
Noob Saibot 5:5 EDIT: 6-4
Raiden 5:5
Rain 4:6
Reptile 5:5
Scorpion 5:5
Sektor 5:5
Shang Tsung 5:5
Sheeva 8:2
Sindel 5:5
Skarlet 4:6
Smoke 3:7
Sonya 3:7
Stryker 6:4
Sub-Zero 7:3 EDIT:6:4

Any questions about theses MU I will gladly answer them all.

EDIT: Online quan

 

[Qwark28]

explain your view on the sub MU

 

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Qwark28 IMO QC beats Sub zero because Quan can out zone Sub mid screen and can sky drop on reaction to ice ball. If somehow sub zero carrys QC to the corner into ice clone pressure. If quan reads ice clones he can trance. It could be 6 4 quan.. but most sub zeros i play i usually win. Anything else?

 

[Qwark28]

Qwark28 IMO QC beats Sub zero because Quan can out zone Sub mid screen and can sky drop on reaction to ice ball. If somehow sub zero carrys QC to the corner into ice clone pressure. If quan reads ice clones he can trance. It could be 6 4 quan.. but most sub zeros i play i usually win

skulls can be slid and no competent subzero is going to clone for no reason

you probably don't know how subzeros corner containment works, there are no punishable clones involved.

 

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Yes if sub zero does not do the hard knowndown (222) d4 or 212 he will tranced if the quan player reads it. Maybe i over did it on 7 3 but it has to be 6 4 Quan favor. I just feel Qc can out turtle Sub

 

[Enenra]

You're not from Russia are you?

 

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Im from Africa ;_;

 

[HGTV Soapboxfan]

i think it is fairly accepted that quan loses to cage 3-7. Why do you think it is only 4-6? I mean cage severely out footsies quan, has significantly better normals, builds meter jsut as well if not better than him, and it isn't like quan is keeping cage out with anything. And if quan gets put in the corner or even knocked down, he is in a really bad place.

 

[Qwark28]

Yes if sub zero does not do the hard knowndown (222) d4 or 212 he will tranced if the quan player reads it. Maybe i over did it on 7 3 but it has to be 6 4 Quan favor. I just feel Qc can out turtle Sub

no, any blockstring to clone is safe from trance

quan doesnt win this.

out turtles sub? how does quan get in again lol?

 

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HGTV Soapboxfan good point but even though skull ball not the best zoneing tool in the games it keeps him out somewhat. When cage does get I can really say Quan is kinda screwed lol but cage is fueling quans fire by beating on him if the Quan player choose not to break if he's caught in a combo. Cage wins but i don't think its that bad to say 7 3.

 

[mikey_mike1993]

i think it is fairly accepted that quan loses to cage 3-7. Why do you think it is only 4-6? I mean cage severely out footsies quan, has significantly better normals, builds meter jsut as well if not better than him, and it isn't like quan is keeping cage out with anything. And if quan gets put in the corner or even knocked down, he is in a really bad place.

^ i agree with this Quan vs Johnny Cage 3-7
Quan can't really get out his pressure, his footsies are crappy.
And really can't build meter for his rune traps.

 

[HGTV Soapboxfan]

^ i agree with this Quan vs Johnny Cage 3-7
Quan can't really get out his pressure, his footsies are crappy.
And really can't build meter for his rune traps.

i would also say this is the same for sonya quan but on the next level. possible 8-2 matchup.

 

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yea i know any clone from a block string is safe. Quan can just wait till Sub comes to him. What can Sub zero do full screen that chips? When Sub does get quan in the corner i say the match its turned over to sub... What do you think even or Sub favor?

 

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Quan against Freddy IMO is 4-6. Quan can get in with sky drop and trading projectiles with trances is a plus.

 

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Quan loses so bad to the good zoners I can barely get out a trance vs kenshi mid screen freddy should't be midscreens anyways. You can't sky drop on reaction either.. He loses bad

 

[mikey_mike1993]

i would also say this is the same for sonya quan but on the next level. possible 8-2 matchup.

I think it is 7-3 match up. I'll say 8-2 or even 9-1 mu if Quan wouldn't have have tha rune trap lol.

 

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Sonya just op T.T

 

[EMPEROR_THEO]

I go back and forth on Jax vs. Quan. Once Jax gets Quan in the corner its game over. Though Quan can lock Jax's zoning, his bad footsies contradict his low hitbox and his armor is a bit risky since Jax's strings don't have too much animation and recovery on some of them. 5-5 is fine, but arguably 4-6.

 

[xKhaoTik]

agreed with the kitana and sonya numbers

I've always wondered why quan vs mileena was 5-5 tho. thoughts?

 

[STB Shujinkydink]

i think it is fairly accepted that quan loses to cage 3-7. Why do you think it is only 4-6? I mean cage severely out footsies quan, has significantly better normals, builds meter jsut as well if not better than him, and it isn't like quan is keeping cage out with anything. And if quan gets put in the corner or even knocked down, he is in a really bad place.

This is fiction. 4-6 at worst. He can outzone cage, building meter at the same time. If cage could outzone him yes it would be a 7-3

Also, Kitana doesnt beat him 7-3 either, thats absurd

 

[SCK ERR0R MACR0]

I agree with most of it--a couple things feel off:

I would say it is definitely 7-3 Cage.

Can someone comment on Rain? I feel like it is 7-3 Rain.

Happy to see another Quan player sees it as 7-3 Smoke. I honestly would prefer to fight Kabal over Smoke using Quan.

Can someone comment on Kitana? That seems like it would be 6-4 Kitana, not 7-3. What makes it equally as bad as Smoke or Kabal vs. Quan?

 

[HGTV Soapboxfan]

This is fiction. 4-6 at worst. He can outzone cage, building meter at the same time. If cage could outzone him yes it would be a 7-3

Also, Kitana doesnt beat him 7-3 either, thats absurd

Do you really think that skull is that good? I mean you can build some meter at the ranges where you get a free rune check afterwards.... but you cannot keep me away for very long. Eventually cage is going to catch quan and unless he built shit tons of meter off of whiffed skulls and a couple blocked runes he doesn't have that good of a chance at stopping cage from slowly just pushing him into the corner and chipping him to death, meanwhile cage is still building meter and quan isnt.

 

[mikey_mike1993]

I agree with Khaotik, i always wanted to know why mileena vs Quan match up 5-5.

 

[SCK ERR0R MACR0]

This is fiction. 4-6 at worst. He can outzone cage, building meter at the same time. If cage could outzone him yes it would be a 7-3

Also, Kitana doesnt beat him 7-3 either, thats absurd

When midscreen or more, I definitely feel Quan is at advantage, but how do you keep Cage out? If you can keep him out even half of the time, I can completely understand why you have it at 6-4. Any guidance would be appreciated

 

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xKhaoTikx play me o.o lol but Its even imo Quan can punish teleport and ex tele. if quan whiffs trance she can punish with her teleport or with the roll thing mid screen. now for zoning wise mil just cant zone toss sais all day if she do she can be punish by sky drop on read or reaction. If QC trys to zone quan can get rolled or TU. For close fightsing i say its about even maybe mil got a little edge in the close fightings... can we play on psn i can show you better then i can tell you lol