Identifying Every Character's Weaknesses.

[Killphil]

Ermac
-Main strings whiff high at start(1,2,1) or after the first hit(3,1,2)
-Ex teleport is useless
-slow uppercut
-Not that great up close
-No (reliable) overhead
-Other close to useless moves (i.e. b3 or 3,3 or possibly u4)

 

[InFlames]

Noob Saibot:

-Normal string BnB's have low-damage.
-Can't hit jumping opponents with normals if a Blackhole is in-screen.
-Some of his strings can be parried on block.
-Ghostball is too slow and a waste of a move.
-Teleport can be ducked and full-punished.
-Has no low starters.
-D1 sucks.
-Uppercut is slow and has small range/hit-box(Not good for AA).
-Has the worst sweep in the game.
-DFB2 is a retarded input for In Front Blackhole and sometimes causes accidental Close Blackholes.

...Other than that he is a S+++ Tier boss.

 

[McNasty]

Smoke- big hit box making him vulnerable to pressure.

Reptile- slow pokes forces him to dash out of some pressure which is easily baited.

Kitana- very situational wake ups with a high risk factor.

 

[3PiecesOfBread]

Scorpion: Shitty pokes (D3 is -7 on hit for example), bad wakeups, hard to escape pressure, his vortex is just as dangerous to him as it is to the opponent.

 

[PND_Ketchup]

Sektor's really easy to keep in the corner. His wakeup game isn't very good at all. And his wiff punishing is difficult due to his fastest strings having no range.

But him being cornered is his biggest weakness by far in my opinion.

 

[KIllaByte]

Scorpion: Shitty pokes (D3 is -7 on hit for example), bad wakeups, hard to escape pressure, his vortex is just as dangerous to him as it is to the opponent.

Isn't Takedown completely safe, EX Takedown even more safe, and EX teleport guaranteed safety and chip damage?

 

[Lazoruz]

Well first of all, maroon is an awful awful color and I refuse to participate in your poll.

Second, Sindel has no really reliable ways to escape pressure and her close range game is not too hot at all.

Sindel's EX cartwheel is a good escape method, as well as an EX Screem to stun them and get out of harms way.

 

[DragonPick]

Sindel's EX cartwheel is a good escape method, as well as an EX Screem to stun them and get out of harms way.

But it's really easy to stuff, or just stuff yourself when using it accidentally. I'm not saying it's bad, just unreliable.

 

[Chongo]

Isn't Takedown completely safe, EX Takedown even more safe, and EX teleport guaranteed safety and chip damage?

Ex Teleport isn't that great. An opponent can do a lot of shit to you if they read it.

 

[Zoidberg747]

Baraka: Slow moves(fastest is 12 frames)
Slow launchers(Fastest is 17 frames)
Mediocre damage

 

[Chongo]

Baraka: Slow moves(fastest is 12 frames)
Slow launchers(Fastest is 17 frames)
Mediocre damage

Isn't his standing 2 like 23 frames?

 

[xInfra Deadx]

Isn't his standing 2 like 23 frames?

Yeah. It's pretty bad. lol

Edit: There's an +8 advantage after 2, 2, 1+2. Even then...

 

[Zoidberg747]

Isn't his standing 2 like 23 frames?

Yep

 

[Chongo]

Yeah. It's pretty bad. lol

Lol, that's just depressing.

 

[zaf]

Ermac
-Main strings whiff high at start(1,2,1) or after the first hit(3,1,2)
-Ex teleport is useless
-slow uppercut
-Not that great up close
-No (reliable) overhead
-Other close to useless moves (i.e. b3 or 3,3 or possibly u4)

Seems like there are things you do not know about ermac.

EX teleport is not useless. You can use this on wake up.
EX moves have more invincibility frames, allowing ermac to avoid some things he otherwise could not and then he can punish with a combo.

Uppercut being 12 frames is not that bad. There are a lot of uppercuts like this.
The hitbox on the uppercut makes up for its 12 frame speed.

B3 is not useless. It beats a lot of wake up moves for some reason.
If you end a combo in ex tkp. teleport to get behind them. This is where b34 shines.


Actual ermac weaknesses:
- A lot of strings whiff.
- Negative frames on pokes. The same pokes needed to avoid pressure
- Compared to top tiers, he has no armor.
- Up close does not suck, but its not great compared to the top 5-8 characters. its really not his strings that are the problem but his pokes.

 

[DragonPick]

Also, has Liu Kang's bigass hitbox been mentioned? He's just a really large character, it sometimes looks really weird

 

[Chongo]

Seems like there are things you do not know about ermac.

EX teleport is not useless. You can use this on wake up.
EX moves have more invincibility frames, allowing ermac to avoid some things he otherwise could not and then he can punish with a combo.

Uppercut being 12 frames is not that bad. There are a lot of uppercuts like this.
The hitbox on the uppercut makes up for its 12 frame speed.

B3 is not useless. It beats a lot of wake up moves for some reason.
If you end a combo in ex tkp. teleport to get behind them. This is where b34 shines.


Actual ermac weaknesses:
- A lot of strings whiff.
- Negative frames on pokes. The same pokes needed to avoid pressure
- Compared to top tiers, he has no armor.
- Up close does not suck, but its not great compared to the top 5-8 characters. its really not his strings that are the problem but his pokes.

What about his less than sub par wakeup game?

 

[Killphil]

Seems like there are things you do not know about ermac.

EX teleport is not useless. You can use this on wake up.
EX moves have more invincibility frames, allowing ermac to avoid some things he otherwise could not and then he can punish with a combo.

Uppercut being 12 frames is not that bad. There are a lot of uppercuts like this.
The hitbox on the uppercut makes up for its 12 frame speed.

B3 is not useless. It beats a lot of wake up moves for some reason.
If you end a combo in ex tkp. teleport to get behind them. This is where b34 shines.


Actual ermac weaknesses:
- A lot of strings whiff.
- Negative frames on pokes. The same pokes needed to avoid pressure
- Compared to top tiers, he has no armor.
- Up close does not suck, but its not great compared to the top 5-8 characters. its really not his strings that are the problem but his pokes.

I guess I based that off my experience. To this day I have never hit someone with EX teleport, wakeup or not. Also I put 'close to useless' for those moves just in case you saw it.

 

[3PiecesOfBread]

Isn't Takedown completely safe, EX Takedown even more safe, and EX teleport guaranteed safety and chip damage?

Takedown is safe in most situations, but it does nothing to help Scorpion pressure or stay in, since it puts both characters apart at about jump distance. D4 -> Takedown is pretty much Scorpion's footsie game. Same with EX, but with armor and more range and damage.

Speaking of D4, it's neutral on hit too. Pretty sure he's the only character in the game that doesn't get advantage on D4 hit.

EX teleport is safe on block. Any other situation, you're going to either get uppercutted or D1 into a juggle out of it if the opponent reads it. Probably even worse against some characters. It can be done on reaction too, as it's not very fast.

 

[WayoftheFist]

Kabal - Player execution
Kung Lao - Low hitbox characters
Sub Zero - Strong zoners

 

[CanadianBaconX]

Sindel
- Slow normals.
- No armour/escape moves.
- Her best meterless combo comes off a 27 frame B3.
- Her best overhead (cartwheel) is unreliable. Gets stuffed by D3s.
- Has a big hitbox.