73% punisher, 68% BnBs, 48% off a HK,LP-launcher, Teleport makes him virtually impossible to rushdown or corner, excellent jabs, best RH in the game - RH links into (up to) a 68% aaCombo, 100%+ in the corner from numerous set-ups.....the list goes on, man. I agree that Ermac should be #3 without question
In the trash? Actually it's fused into the strategy guides on UltimateMK.com. A lot of useful stuff in there. A lot of valid points are brought up, but the problem with moving so many characters up, is that some inarguably top tier characters get moved down. There can only be so many "top 10" characters. IMO, an example of a character that is highly overrated by the handful, handful of players who use her, is Sheeva. That character does not have good matchups, she is good for a couple rounds against a competent player and she becomes useless as her patterns and tricks become easy to neutralize. I am not saying that Sheeva is the worst character to use in application, I'm saying that the only time she will be effective for more than 5 matches is in a lopsided skill set.
It's hard to disagree that this chart is better than the other. I vote we use this to decide new placements for Kitana, Jade, Mileena, Kano, Jax, Sindel. I have an order in mind but I'd like to see more 1st. Kitana top 5, Jade maybe top 10 in the right hands. Mileena needs more work but I doubt is bottom tier or even low now w/ G/J and K/J. Put her the very next character after Jade then ask yourself why she beats the people I put her above.
Ermac has no downfall in damage dealing against Shang or Sheeva, there are very basic 60% combos off jump punish of naked TKS, and mid to high 40s off a knee lift, aside from the fact that he doesn't even need high damage combos to beat those characters. Also, how they fall isn't the problem, it's purely collision box vs push box. Shang and Sheeva have narrow collision, Shang's is also short, and at times, it's virtually impossible to hit two consecutive attacks because he gets too far away too fast. Sheeva has the tall collision box which results in a lot of blockable combos when she gets close to the ground. As from that, his combos don't make him hard to rush down, but you can put yourself in the corner and trap them with the teleport. The proper setup with result in 100% Ermac death combo every time because your opponent feels forced to escape.
Yea, you hit the nail on the head w/ backwards-trap into teleport--->combo, and I'll give you what I got w/ Jade, but im just part of a larger force, so don't forget NoDoubt Arion's if he can't make it to NECXIII, cuz mine is just an example of why she is so good. We still are similarly good, but the standard for her is already low so I naturally place high by default , despite his win-ratio and merely by knowing how to play her at all properly. Using a basis of skill gap between players It's based on relativity since we both have formidable Jade but he is still a good skill level above me in some aspects of the meta-game, specifically aspects that win more. Jade at the highest level - it's obvious where her ability stops.
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While Sub is one of my favorite characters, and you know that, he is just not quite a top 10 character. Think about what characters would have to step down for Sub. I have a character defining style with U-Sub based on the many different Sub's I've played, and the only way he could be top 10 is if he could freeze while the clone was on the screen.
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You don't think Arion playing Jade could rival Arion playing Kitana? Look how their move sets counter each other and she can't be Zoned at all really. Jade is good, man....I put her at #12-#13 above U Sub, Stryker, Scorp and maybe more. She beats all them, man. How else could #13-#18 say she isn't as good as them? Jade and Mileena advance on the Chessboard from whatever Kitana benefits from KJ/GJ, right? No difference among girls. But it matters to the rest of the cast, I'm sure. Any female ninja's GJ/KJ is among the best in the game. I can't even justify placing her below top 15 with anything. Nearly un-zoneable; PI lasts full-screen making her rushdown rival NightWolf nearly, IMO.
This has to be a trolll, lol.
It's just his list of favorites probably, lol.
It's in alphabetical order lol
Wow, didn't even catch that.
LMAO
It's actually 5.5-4.5 in Kabal's favor, but there are a few things that alternate advantages....despite H. Smoke being a 2-mistake character, Kabal's Spin combined w/ KJ/GJ (best in the game) just proves too much for Smoke in most cases, but it truly can go either way. it's a very winnable match for Smoke and Teleport helps him tremendously in countering Kabal's overwhelming rushdown, but he will never have the advantage - Kabal will remain slightly ahead of him. We can say H. Smoke is the lone S-tier member, while Kabal is S+. Everyone under H. Smoke begins S- and/or A+ tier
I totally get what you're saying, don't get me wrong, it's just, I think Kitana is more a specialist character than top tier character, but having said that I don't think she is ever higher than 6th if anyone wants a specific 1-23 rank. IE the same reasons why people think certain characters should move up so many spots just because they use them well. Definitely talk more tonight.
