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xKhaoTik

xKhaoTik

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Does Chi really have a bigger damage output than kitana?

And yea he has f12 but that move is ridiculously slow. If you start that string and the first hit whiffs, I can attack you before the second hit even comes out, preferably ex fan toss or ex fan lift. Kitana's 21 and f21 is more dangerous IMO.

And this whole rune trap thing. Again..yes he has the rune trap, but how would u use it if she makes sure u can't even touch him?

Kitana definitely outrushes him as well.

Idk...I play against Shujinkydink and Insuperable a lot, and the match feels like its in Kit's favor.
 
Rude

Rude

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It's completely in Kitana's favor. There isn't a whole hell of a lot Quan can do against Kitana's D1, cutter pressure. Also...I believe Smoke to be an awful match for Quan. You have to chase him, and no amount of sky dropping will beat smoke bomb. You could try and dash in, but you can be hit very easily between dash blocks, or they just smoke toward you and begin hitting you with strings and downpokes that not only out ranges Quan's pokes, but put Smoke at advantage. Obviously Dink did well against CD's smoke, but it is a very, very hard match.
 
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xKhaoTikx said:
Does Chi really have a bigger damage output than kitana?

And yea he has f12 but that move is ridiculously slow. If you start that string and the first hit whiffs, I can attack you before the second hit even comes out, preferably ex fan toss or ex fan lift. Kitana's 21 and f21 is more dangerous IMO.

And this whole rune trap thing. Again..yes he has the rune trap, but how would u use it if she makes sure u can't even touch him?

Kitana definitely outrushes him as well.

Idk...I play against Shujinkydink and Insuperable a lot, and the match feels like its in Kit's favor.
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Quan Chi has over 90% combos so yes bigger damage output. And I'm ont going to wiff a f12 I'll have the ok speed f1 hit you with great range. And why can't quan chi touch kitana?
 
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Rude said:
It's completely in Kitana's favor. There isn't a whole hell of a lot Quan can do against Kitana's D1, cutter pressure. Also...I believe Smoke to be an awful match for Quan. You have to chase him, and no amount of sky dropping will beat smoke bomb. You could try and dash in, but you can be hit very easily between dash blocks, or they just smoke toward you and begin hitting you with strings and downpokes that not only out ranges Quan's pokes, but put Smoke at advantage. Obviously Dink did well against CD's smoke, but it is a very, very hard match.
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If smoke plays keep away quan chi just dashes up then what? And I've never seen someone smoke towards in between dash blocks, but if you could do that it would make it worse
 
STB Shujinkydink

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xKhaoTikx said:
I don't think Kitana v Quan is even. Kitana has way better footsies and rushing than Quan and if Quan makes the wrong mistake, he is gonna eat huge damage.

Yea he has the rune trap, but how would that come into play when she can make sure that he can't even touch her? Plus, with all that damage she gives out, Quan HAS to break in this matchup.
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I disagree with this whole heartedly. Quan can zone kitana, uppercut cutter on reaction, and of course the rune trap. quan can trade with fans, i have this in quans favor, at WORST a 5-5.

These MU's i know for sure

LK - 7-3 kang having played xblades, his rushdown is just too much for quan. if somehow that fails, he easily outzones him

sonya - 7-3 sonya pressure, counter pokes everything, can armour and interrupt strings with divekick. little hope here for quan(exp coming from playing clint the beast, and mortyseinfeld, kevin7)

cage - 6-4 cage again, pressure, but quan can zone him with runes and skulls to build meter, keeping him at 6-4(MU exp coming from playing Curbo)

Shang 5-5 ground skulls eliminate skydrop, trance eliminates upskulls. pressure is about the same, shang does have a frame trap but its not enough to alter the MU that much.

ill post a few more as I think of them. Insuperable
 
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Ok lk and Sonya have been change to 3-7, cage has been put back at 4-6 and Shang is back to 5-5 btw Shujinkydink you should watch teh East Coast Throwdown stream Insuperable and I are gonna show casing our quans there you don't wanna miss it
 
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Shujinkydink said:
for sure man! i cant miss quan soup and dr rune trap!

Jimmypotato would like to hear your input on Kitana quan since we play every weekend offline
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Well my friend is an ok kitana at best, but the zoning battle is equal. Quan Chi can uppercut or d3 ex rune out of kitana's generally high pressure game. Both characters have a very high damage output. Quan Chi can't afford to wiff a f12, because kitana can punish with f21 into about 43%. Also quan chi has to use some meter for breakers, because of her damage. Then again quan chi has the whole 52% garenteed on block, so they both have advantages over each other so its an even matchup in my opinion. Then again you have more matchup experience so you probably know better.
 
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Death said:
So your changing the Jax/Quan MU based off 1 game in a tournament lol smh.
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Well this matchup chart is based on the kommunities opinion and I am getting mixed opinions. Here's the fact both characters destory the other so where does it go. Quan Chi can duck under crouch blocking under all of jax's pressure including f413 even in corner, f4 overhead, 1, and basically everything. Quan can also use random trances midscreen a a low risk , because of jax's low midscreen damage. But then jax destroys quan with oki ground pounds, armor in between strings and interrupt b3 1+2, and zoning. The recovery on ground pound helps a lot too. I don't know where to put this matchup right now.
 
STB Shujinkydink

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Death said:
So your changing the Jax/Quan MU based off 1 game in a tournament lol smh.
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the problem is thats all we have really. Dr flash was pretty bang on with his explanation. You cant really base it on online matches obviously, and the only other tournament match we have to base it on was me tyrant at devastation and taht was back at devastation. also, the FR match was between arguably two of the best with each character so it makes sense
 
Espio

Espio

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I'd like to run Stryker v.s. Quan with any Quan Chi players that are on PSN, that would be cool just for the experience and fun:).
 
Z-911-Z

Z-911-Z

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Metzos said:
Ermac vs QC is 6-4 in Mac's favor, not an even MU.
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This, telepush is always a pain in the ass for characters with no decent teleport. You can't runetrap if you can't get in, and if you make a mistake you could be punished and eat 46% damage.
 
Metzos

Metzos

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Z-911-Z said:
This, telepush is always a pain in the ass for characters with no decent teleport. You can't runetrap if you can't get in, and if you make a mistake you could be punished and eat 46% damage.
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Yes, that amongst other things. I have mentioned most of this in the QC MU chart and in the Ermac MU chart also.
 
STB Shujinkydink

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Metzos said:
Ermac vs QC is 6-4 in Mac's favor, not an even MU.
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will you stop with this, ermac has no advantage over quan. The only thing ermac has in general is damage, and even then its hard to get.

If you want ill do a FT5 with detroits ermac at EVO since it will probably be the best ermac there. and then we will base the results on that

DetroitBalln
 
Metzos

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Shujinkydink said:
will you stop with this, ermac has no advantage over quan. The only thing ermac has in general is damage, and even then its hard to get.

If you want ill do a FT5 with detroits ermac at EVO since it will probably be the best ermac there. and then we will base the results on that

DetroitBalln
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You really dont know anything about this MU. I really dont care anymore, believe whatever you want man. You wanna think that Ermac vs QC is an even MU or even at Quan's favor then by all means keep believing that. You ll be up for a very rude awakening.
 
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