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DanCock

Cock Master!!
On the subject of Israel and Iran, I don't support anyone physically hurting the other, but I support Iran. I do not recognize Israel as a legitimate state and do not believe it should exist. If they do not leave Israel, they must open the border with Palestine. If they get hurt because of it, it's their fault for treating them like shit for the past 60+ years.
posts like this one I wish there was a dislike button.


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MKF30

Fujin and Ermac for MK 11
Satan's Haze, dude believe me I know enough to get by and think for myself. I don't know where you're going with the muslim thing, you act as if I said all terrorists are muslims or vice versa. I never said that, and true muslims aren't about terror. So I already know this. I don't have a twisted view of anything, you're merely seeing in a delusional way or thru your own unique colored screen in front of your eyes. lol you act as if I've never been out of NYC, dude I've been out of NYC, I get different parts of the USA, much less country are different but your post has 0 to do with what I've said.


eks, Actually I'm not because I'm merely posting that the effects of weed have on the brain in which you're already agreeing with your last post to Zoidberg, as far as how I feel and why I proved my point and made it pages ago, it's just some folks don't want to understand or listen to opposing perspectives....(which you can see)I even stated several times, pot won't kill you, just HARM your brain cells when smoked heavily. People like revolver won't and don't want to see this so I'm not going to force basic facts down anyone's throat. BTW, I agree with you totally on people shouldn't get prison for years for getting high, possession and dealing, another story but caught with a blunt? There's more important things to worry about.

I have never talked to such a fucking retard ever in my life. English motherfucker, can you read it? Let me put your fucking shit in flowchart form son:

->state marijuana kills brain cells
->someone says it doesn't kill brain cells and posts proof
->say they're wrong
->google search "marijuana kills brain cells" and blindly post the links
->realize what you posted actually counters your point
->get called out for it
->state that you posted several articles proving your case
->???
->profit


Do you know why people resort to personal attacks against you? Because you're either so fucking stupid or the greatest internet troll to ever exist. Nowhere, anywhere, does anything say (except some dude's brother when they were kids) that it kills brain cells. What the fuck are you talking about? Does your brain somehow refuse to be wrong, and your eyes manipulate your reality to fit your beliefs? This couldn't be any more plain and clear. This isn't even a debate, this is several people trying to get through to you to show you what a FACT is. There is nothing you can argue here to be correct. Do you understand this, or no?
And this is why you're stupid ^, you can't even understand a simple concept and clearly can't understand my point...

Just ignore what I post, as you usually do...

Congrats, you display and prove my point. I tried to be reasonable with you but I should have known better...you choose to instead pull a Bob Beckel letting your liberal philosophy get the better of you via your emotions. So, please try again. I already know I'm right concerning the point I've made, I don't need your approval nor care if you agree at this point. BTW, your whole "I take Iran's side" proves my point on why you're a typical liberal. Not a Democrat, a far left liberal. Because I'm so sure Israel is wrong in every way right?


I just find it hilarious how MKF lives in one of the most progressive states in the US and acts like he lives somewhere in Bumblefuck, Kansas. Maybe you should move to NYC man. You could clearly use some interaction with other human beings. You know, those dirty liberals and colored people. Maybe the gays, too. ;)

Or just move to Texas, buy a pickup truck, and start going on tangents about how the South will rise again. Whichever works for you! :coffee:

I find it hilarious that you're obviously ignorant to the fact that I live in a heavily "conservative" area of NYC...(yet people tell me I don't know about other parts lol, funny)Oh yes, because if you live in NYC you must be a "progressive liberal" by default, I guess some of us care to think for ourselves? I don't know...and choose not to be brainwashed by the mainstream media and typical NY politics? BTW, I'm from Staten Island, NYC the one and ONLY place where conservatives outumber liberals. Who would have thought huh? Otherwise, the rest of NYC and NY State are obviously liberal.

I also love your pot shots at "people down south with pickup trucks" and how the South will rise? What?!? lol Liberals....




@Zoid, I'd say he got dumber because of both actually. Wasting time as well as JUST smoking too much weed...you're talking about two different things now, doing something over another out of lazyness or priority is different then knowing smoking, injecting, drinking something into your body harms you over time in some form or another. Revo posted shit other then petty insults because he won't accept basic facts. So I'm not even going to try to convince anyone anymore who feels" weed is 100% harmless" to you. Am I saying it'll kill you? No. It would take a shitload of weed to accomplish there, am I saying weed in large amounts can harm your brain, choices, motor functions etc? YES. That is all I'm saying, but hey I've come to accept some folks live in denial out of their "Pro-weed" stance.
 

Espio

Kokomo
On the subject of Israel and Iran, I don't support anyone physically hurting the other, but I support Iran. I do not recognize Israel as a legitimate state and do not believe it should exist. If they do not leave Israel, they must open the border with Palestine. If they get hurt because of it, it's their fault for treating them like shit for the past 60+ years.
I don't think Israel shouldn't exist, the proper compromise would be a return of land taken from Palestinians via settlements and the old borders from the 60's I believe. Israel cannot complain about people not liking them if they don't wish to do what needs to be done to gain peace, both sides need to make concessions, otherwise we'll be left spinning forever.



I really find it disgraceful that Israel keeps expanding settlements in the West Bank, they're basically pushing them all out of the country and nobody does anything on their behalf.....Hamas and the settlements are some of the biggest issues...though Hamas' rise to power is heavily attributed to the shenanigans going on in that tiny corner of land in the world.

I used to be sympathetic to both sides, but they're both so wrong it angers me that logic cannot prevail.
 

MKF30

Fujin and Ermac for MK 11
lol whenever it says "last post: MKF30" I always come back and read it. Its freakin hilarious.
I'm glad you have the time to do so, "laugh" at someone's post without rational thought on the topic at hand(that always amuses me) So thank you, I find your post just as hilarious. Funny GT too...

P.S. it's actually "Freaking" just so you know, but it's ok nobody is perfect :)
 

Espio

Kokomo
Was your post a serious question? I was just messing because they really act the same overall, particularly our politicians. If your post was a serious question I'm sorry.

I'm one for political humor, also sorry about that...

Of course it's not like we can provide a real objective answer to this question there's multiple types of liberalism and conservatism, we'd have to get more specific terminology.
 

rev0lver

Come On Die Young
I even stated several times, pot won't kill you, just HARM your brain cells when smoked heavily. People like revolver won't and don't want to see this so I'm not going to force basic facts down anyone's throat.
Did you get dropped on your head as a kid? WHERE, in ANY of these scientific articles does it show that it kills brain cells? You have NOT ONCE backed this up, while I have shown where it says the opposite MULTIPLE TIMES. There is ZERO debate here. You are wrong and you have to deal with it. You have NO room for argument, this is a well-known fact that has been backed up by science time and time again, as shown by BOTH the articles I have linked and you have linked. This is NOT an opinion, this is NOT a belief. How do you not understand this? Actually back your shit up or shut the fuck up and admit you were wrong. That's all I want.

And I totally sympathize with Bob Beckel. If I were interviewed by someone like Hannity on Fox News I would probably blurt out a "are you fucking stupid?" too.
 
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MKF30

Fujin and Ermac for MK 11
What's the difference between a liberal and conservative?
It's funny you mention that because I was checking out vids today on YT explaining both. I found this guys views pretty accurate in a lot of ways. Seems like a smart fellow(he's neither btw for those wondering)


Did you get dropped on your head as a kid? WHERE, in ANY of these scientific articles does it show that it kills brain cells? You have NOT ONCE backed this up, while I have shown where it says the opposite MULTIPLE TIMES. There is ZERO debate here. You are wrong and you have to deal with it. You have NO room for argument, this is a well-known fact that has been backed up by science time and time again, as shown by BOTH the articles I have linked and you have linked. This is NOT an opinion, this is NOT a belief. How do you not understand this? Actually back your shit up or shut the fuck up and admit you were wrong. That's all I want.
No, did you get dropped on your head? Petty nonsense aside. Obviously you didn't read "every link" I posted, yes SOME say inconclusive, however some of the very same articles say "when smoked in heavy amounts, it EFFECTS your brain" and in basic tests, the stoners had worse results then sober folks. Nuff said. But hey, believe what you want, and when you're ready to show some respect I'm down, otherwise don't bother me with your "weed is good for your or doesn't harm you" bs. I get it you're pro weed, fine, I'm not. Can we just agree to disagree?
 

Espio

Kokomo
I'm glad you have the time to do so, "laugh" at someone's post without rational thought on the topic at hand(that always amuses me) So thank you, I find your post just as hilarious. Funny GT too...

P.S. it's actually "Freaking" just so you know, but it's ok nobody is perfect :)
NogunYesknife is the most epic GT...get outta here:p.
 

rev0lver

Come On Die Young
I don't think Israel shouldn't exist, the proper compromise would be a return of land taken from Palestinians via settlements and the old borders from the 60's I believe. Israel cannot complain about people not liking them if they don't wish to do what needs to be done to gain peace, both sides need to make concessions, otherwise we'll be left spinning forever.
The problem is I don't think that's a proper compromise. The only thing that would truly be fair is if the Israelis returned to Europe and dissolved the Israeli state. While that's not going to happen, anything less than that will still be viewed as Israel getting the better deal. But the issue of settlements in the West Bank is a no-brainer. Imagine what would happen if we treated Native Americans the way Israelis treat these people in the modern day, and then acted like it was no big deal.
 

rev0lver

Come On Die Young
No, did you get dropped on your head? Petty nonsense aside. Obviously you didn't read "every link" I posted, yes SOME say inconclusive, however some of the very same articles say "when smoked in heavy amounts, it EFFECTS your brain" and in basic tests, the stoners had worse results then sober folks. Nuff said. But hey, believe what you want, and when you're ready to show some respect I'm down, otherwise don't bother me with your "weed is good for your or doesn't harm you" bs.
Do you know what "neurology" is? It's the physical study of the brain. Do you not understand that correlational studies on test performance have ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with brain cell death or how it affects your brain at all? That's where the "inconclusive" part comes from, as well as the severely flawed monkey study done 60 years ago. The problem is, all NEUROLOGICAL studies have shown ZERO evidence of brain cell death. Once again, this is a fact. This is not an argument. You have been completely embarrassing yourself for the past few pages. Now admit you're wrong.
 

MKF30

Fujin and Ermac for MK 11
NogunYesknife is the most epic GT...get outta here:p.
Nogunyesknife? pfftt seen better :p Fuck both, take a crossbow or slingshot now THAT takes skill to master lol.

Do you know what "neurology" is? It's the physical study of the brain. Do you not understand that correlational studies on test performance have ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with brain cell death or how it affects your brain at all? That's where the "inconclusive" part comes from, as well as the severely flawed monkey study done 60 years ago. The problem is, all NEUROLOGICAL studies have shown ZERO evidence of brain cell death. Once again, this is a fact. This is not an argument. You have been completely embarrassing yourself for the past few pages. Now admit you're wrong.
Yes, do you realize that the brain is made of of a ton of various working parts for different functions within the human body? Doing a certain drug may have NO effect on one part of the brain, yet effect the other. This is what I'm saying, you're acting as if I'm claiming "weed kills you" or something, never said that. Just said when smoked in heavy, consistent amounts it effects your head. Hardly embarrassing, if anything you have by insulting me instead of actually trying to hear my point. I get it you're pro-weed, I'm not. So let's just agree to disagree. K there sparky?
 

rev0lver

Come On Die Young
Yes, do you realize that the brain is made of of a ton of various working parts for different functions within the human body? Doing a certain drug may have NO effect on one part of the brain, yet effect the other. This is what I'm saying, you're acting as if I'm claiming "weed kills you" or something, never said that. Just said when smoked in heavy, consistent amounts it effects your head. Hardly embarrassing, if anything you have by insulting me instead of actually trying to hear my point. I get it you're pro-weed, I'm not. So let's just agree to disagree. K there sparky?
No, you're saying that weed kills brain cells, and I'm saying it doesn't. There's NOTHING to agree to disagree on. There's a fact, and then there's something that's not a fact. There's no middle ground. Everything I have shown and everything you have shown shows that marijuana does not kill brain cells. There is nothing involving low or heavy amounts in this argument. Admit that you were wrong.
 

Squeaker101

Show me what you can do
Did you guys know Canada never sent any soldiers during the Cold War? I did.

Anyways, I enjoy politicle talk. And seeing how there's no "Canadian Politics Discussion Thread" I've come to bug this thread.

What political party are you in? I'm a Liberal, so I get pushed around a lot.
:rolleyes:

Espio872 I also enjoy politicle humour. I enjoy most humour. (including puns) I just don't like it when they cross a certain line. (such as some racist and sexist jokes)
 

DanCock

Cock Master!!
FYI i haven't read every post recently so I'm not 100% sure what were talking about.
***forgive me I'm also at work and can't fact check myself atm***

From my understanding

Britain owned that land and gave it to the Jewish people and palatine people. Part of palatine became Jordan the other became Israel.

Did we also just forget the war that Egypt, Syria and palatine waged on Israel? Where Israel kicked their asses. Israel could of said fuck you and wiped out a bunch more people for the war those people waged on them but they didn't.

Pretty much Every country in the world was occupied by other races and a stronger force came over and conquered.

Should we leave the USA and go back to Europe????


Clearly 2 wrongs don't make a right, but let's not be selective with our opinions we have mkf for that ;)


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MKF30

Fujin and Ermac for MK 11
@Revolv
*sigh* I said weed effects your head/harms your brain whatever you want to call it ok, when smoked in heavy doses and often.

This is what I'm telling you, I'm not admitting anything just because you want me to. It's inconclusive by majority, meaning some people feel it doesn't others feel it does so yeah, I wasn't wrong. If I said, weed kills people, then yeah but never said that so..
 

rev0lver

Come On Die Young
FYI i haven't read every post recently so I'm not 100% sure what were talking about.
***forgive me I'm also at work and can't fact check myself atm***

From my understanding

Britain owned that land and gave it to the Jewish people and palatine people. Part of palatine became Jordan the other became Israel.

Did we also just forget the war that Egypt, Syria and palatine waged on Israel? Where Israel kicked their asses. Israel could of said fuck you and wiped out a bunch more people for the war those people waged on them but they didn't.

Pretty much Every country in the world was occupied by other races and a stronger force came over and conquered.

Should we leave the USA and go back to Europe????


Clearly 2 wrongs don't make a right, but let's not be selective with our opinions we have mkf for that ;)


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What happened was the jews were sent to Israel and they coexisted with the Palestinians. However, because of the higher education and power of the jews, they basically became the ruling class. When the Palestinians rebelled against the outsiders being in power as a result of outside forces that had no reason to be involved in their region, Israel declared independence and forced the Palestinians out. Some went to Jordan, some went to other nearby countries, and some were forced into modern day Palestine (the tiny strip of land in western Israel). Not only that, but they had military assistance from European countries to do this (particularly England). This is the primary reason Middle-Eastern terrorists dislike Western countries.

As for the general occupying of territories, yes it has happened in many places. The problem is, this should not have happened in the 20th century, and it should not have happened in a way that the Palestinians became not even 2nd class, but pretty much 3rd class citizens and can't even officially establish their own state.
 

rev0lver

Come On Die Young
@Revolv
*sigh* I said weed effects your head/harms your brain whatever you want to call it ok, when smoked in heavy doses and often.

This is what I'm telling you, I'm not admitting anything just because you want me to. It's inconclusive by majority, meaning some people feel it doesn't others feel it does so yeah, I wasn't wrong. If I said, weed kills people, then yeah but never said that so..
I'm talking about brain cell death. There is nothing saying it happens in small doses or heavy doses. There is nothing inconclusive other than a non-scientist saying so in an article.

This is the disconnect:

-A CORRELATIONAL study found that heavy smokers perform worse on some aspects of cognitive test
-Multiple EXPERIMENTAL studies found that marijuana doesn't cause brain cells to die
-Therefore, there is most likely an outside variable that is influencing the results of the correlational study. This is how research works.

What is there that you don't understand here? What majority are you talking about? This is something that is well-established in the scientific community. I am not talking about causing a person to die, I am talking about brain cell death. This couldn't be plainer. There's nothing to argue here. You are wrong, so admit it and I won't go any further. That's all I want.
 

RomeoBravoDelta

Kombatant
What's the difference between a liberal and conservative?
At their most reductive, the American Liberal and Conservative ideologies are active and passive Government, respectively. Liberals tend to want Government to act as a more involved oversight and regulatory mechanism, while Conservatives want the Government as hands-off as possible and let the general public and market place decide what is best. Liberals also tend to write and pass legislation that is aimed at the federal levels while Conservatives usually work at the state level.

Ideally, the American government would operate between these two, with the Liberals making sure Government intervenes when appropriate and the Conservatives keeping it out when it's not needed. However, as we have seen over the last 50 yeas, and especially the last 20, that is not the case.
 

aj1701

Champion
Ya I agree we should keep researching Hydrogen as a fuel source, I think it may even have applications in space travel. There's more random H floating around than U.

True, accidents like Chyrnobal are bad, but that's an example how not to build a reactor. Those reactor designs were flawed, and pretty much the only ones built were by the Soviets. US reactor design is safer, and modern reactors can (and are I believe in France) be designed so that a meltdown is impossible. Pebble bed reactors are an example, IIRC, and that reactor in the article I linked can't meltdown either IIRC.

I understand now what you mean by appreciating the cultures, although I personally would not feel safe visiting Jordan.
 

aj1701

Champion
posts like this one I wish there was a dislike button.
I sorta see where he's coming from. Israel was created with good intentions in mind, but effectively what happened is that the Allies took land from people and a nation and created Israel out of it, displacing everyone already there. Its not great for either side, and Israel should compromise, especially with the land it took in the 60s.