@Iniquit, I'm sure people can think for themselves for someone so hellbent on ignoring me, I think everyone knows how to use that option by now. I've put it to good use already. Yeah, I'm not openminded? lol another guy that doesn't even know me, but then coming from a guy with a "troll" face I suppose that answers any wonders I've had about you.
I am seriously shocked at how far you're going with this. Dude, just give it up and admit you're wrong. Jesus.... what do I have to argue with you next? That the world isn't flat?
You seriously need some reading comprehension. The quote you posted is referring to correlational studies about heavy marijuana use and functioning on tests, as shown a couple paragraphs above on that page. The word "brain damage" is simply misused there. It's a correlational study with no neurological components, no cause and effect between variables can be found. The general consensus of scientists on the mismatch between the correlational and experimental studies is that there is an outside variable causing impaired functioning, such as a certain type of person being drawn to heavy marijuana use. The neurological studies, discussed ON THAT SAME PAGE, shows that no evidence of brain cell death has ever been found.
On that dreaminglife page... dude, are you serious? This is someone's brother saying something. If you actually scroll down and read the entire page, he says that his brother was wrong and marijuana doesn't actually kill brain cells.
This isn't even a debate dude. Science is right, you are wrong. Just concede already, you're embarrassing yourself even further.
For cancer, I already talked about that. This is marijuana smoke, not marijuana.
lol how am I wrong when several articles state clinically tested evidence after basic tests show weed=kills brain cells? Keep in mind I never said it would "kill you" the amount of weed for that would be ridiculous(it's like water, you'd have to drink a shit ton in small amount of time before your body pees it out) you're not getting what I'm saying, clinical studies prove that weed harms, and kills brain cells when smoked HEAVY. That's also what the page said, did you just skip that part? lol
I'm merely saying it can HARM your brain when smoked a lot and often...that is all. I don't need reading comprehension you do if anything being as how I had to repeat myself several times now and I aced English in school with 90's, with the "cool kids" asking me for help during tests, as hard as that may be it was true thus why I have my goofy persona so that people would leave me alone...
Anywho, back on topic it sounds like you just don't want to believe or agree that in several studies weed harms your brain...but hey dude, believe what you want. Either way, weed isn't getting legalized anytime soon so enjoy the fake shit or black market weed until then. I already admitted and said I'm all for it for sick people, just not recreational. That being said, we'll just agree to disagree. Marijuana smoke comes from marijuana plant, if you eat it obviously more harm would come from it due to the chemicals, smoked won't "hurt" you in the sense of death(at least it shouldn't) but it does still harm your brain cells as well as certain abilities that the brain covers as proved in those tests via the one link I provided.
The only things Obama has done that have a socialist bent are the ACA, and he's pretty ok with redistribution of wealth.. but even then its not close to full blown socialism. He's not calling for the end of private ownership though, so saying he's a socialist is a bit of a stretch. Redistribution of wealth I think does fall under a socailist color, I think. Note I didn't say everything you said was wrong, but there is a bunch that is. Just go look on MSNBC or somthing.
I never said warped or crazy. See this is where you go wrong, you DO go way off the deep end when someone challenges you. And its not like conservatives don't do the same deflection when their positions are attacked... that's why I don't get why you keep dweeling on liberal vs conservative. Just drop the labeling and actually discuss an issue, don't try to dismiss by calling something liberal (which is what it sounds like when you mention that you think people are liberal). Who cares?
I don't care what others think. I am firm with my beliefs, but if someone can logically present a counter argument I consider it. If its good I might even change my mind. I said you don't appear open minded because it doesn't look like you've gone off an actually tried to understand the other side, you come back attacking the position (without presenting a case why you disagree, without emotion). I'm not trying to call you out or attack you or anything, I'm trying to help you out and get you to understand where you might be going wrong getting your point across.
Seriously, everyone here (including me) is getting the same vibe from you. I don't know why that doesnt seem to give you pause and at least consider that it really is the way you're coming off. Trust me, I know how hard it is to admit an area that needs improvement. We all have such things, and its really hard. I really hope you don't take that personally, I'm honestly trying to give you what I think is good advice.
Ok, so Obama is a boarderline socialist, lol how's that with certain ideas. That better man? With the whole healthcare thing and his method of balancing taxes, money for everyone. Is more so what I'm aiming at. Yes, I never said YOU said that a certain troll did, this is why I put him on ignore because clearly when someone is resorting to petty insults such as "you're just an extremist or warped" then I take what they say with a grain of salt, know what I mean? I've never said the right is perfect, nor the left. I even said before few times all politics are corrupt, at this point I just try my best to choose the lesser of two evils since it does effect me, you and everyone else here. You act as if when I say "liberal" it's an insult like "motherfucker" or something, totally not what I mean, I mean it due to their ideals and beliefs(the fact that some folks take "liberal" term as an insult really makes me wonder, don't you think? If someone says "typical con righty" nobody says anything, but I say liberal mentality and everyone goes nuts? This is why my pals who are moderate and other independent read this topic and told me "Pete just ignore these guys, when they start calling your extreme they're clearly not willing to listen to anything you say" this is why I believe you're one of the few I can actually speak with in a mature fashion. Besides, whether we like it or not the country is and has always been about(by majority outside of indenpendent and undecided voters) by the right or the left. So, not labeling just a fact of life for the time being in America.
That's the thing though, you see people often misunderstand me(as usual) on here outside of people who actually DO know me personally, people post hypocritical posts such as "he's set in his mindset" yet those very people aren't? lol That's why anything and everything I post is instantly dismissed. So am I perfect or something? No, who is? Am I always wrong? Doubtful, but maybe sometimes(I am human afterall like you) Am I however heavily outnumbered by opposing views? Fuck yes. And this is a main reason why I'm a loner in this topic. I'm getting the vibe from you, you're not a liberal or conservative but have your own beliefs, but at the same time shouldn't be easily influenced by "majority" of a topic, majority doesn't = always correct, it just means majority. Half the people in here against hold a personal bias from other nonsense you have to remember. As for getting my points across, look I'm totally open to discuss anything despite if you agree with me or not, but when someone starts tossing insults or claiming "everyone here hates me" just lies to try to use as a tool for an argument then I can't take them seriously and it shows me they'd rather insult me as oppose to respect my difference in opinion.
You just shat on your own argument. Some Stoner saying "yeah bro honestly it kills brain cells" means absolutely nothing. He had not tests done or no conclusive proof that it actually does. Maybe he got dumber because he smoked so much pot that he stopped caring about everything else, but that is his problem not all users of weed's.
The second one just says you only kill brain cells if you smoke it like 10 times a week. You do realize that alcohol can kill brain cells, but it is legal. Smoking can kill brain cells, but it is still legal. Weed takes much more repetition to kill any brain cells than the other two. If people use it that much then that is their fault, this does not prove why it should not be legalized.
@Zoid, not shitting on my own argument, merely pointing out facts concerning the effect weed has on your brain when smoked excessively..that is all. Hey, maybe you're right Maybe he got dumber because he smoked so much pot, EXACTLY my point! lol do you not see this? Why did he get dumber, use your own words against you now to prove my own point, because he smoked TOO MUCH weed! I rest my case...and yes, that's why I said when smoked heavily past 7 times a week. I'm not trying to post why it's not legalized or illegal, but just saying regardless of that it still harms your brain cells when smoked often. As for it being legal or not, already covered that while ago. I feel it shouldn't be legal outside of medical purposes. Just my opinion on that, we all have one. That's mine.