RagingNight
Kombatant
Please lock this thread and all threads that involve MKF30 posting. Thank you
People treat you like you treat people. You ranted and raved at people and made things up about them and called them things they weren't and got treated like someone who does that. Everyone here knows you behave like that all the time. Every time the thread died down you kept bumping it.I treat people how they treat me, otherwise ask ANYONE who actually does know me. And you'll find I'm nothing like you say I am. Actually, no it wasn't. Again, I had made the last post before Revolver bumped it like a week ago, would you like me to post the date for you?
lol, you really don't see the hypocrisy do you? You're telling me "don't call others liberals"(even if their views scream a liberal) you seem to deny this but that aside, yet you call me "an extremist" for merely disagreeing with you. You can believe whatever you wish, her name is Audrey, and she plays MK so I consider myself very lucky
Your last statement is pretty much pointless.
The U.S. Constitution Party have recently nominated former Congressman Virgil Goode as their candidate for president.With all of the "convincing" he's doing that he has a girlfriend, it's almost like he's also trying to convince himself.
Still wondering when this topic can stop being about MKF and actually be about politics. :/
People translate extremist views as extremist views. You treat people like crap and act like the victim when people point it out. People can see the times of the posts and see when you bumped the thread. There you go once again with your stupid accusations. Not content with calling people liberals for no reason you now try to make out that me and Revolver are the same person. I don't even know him. If everyone who pointed out you're full of shit was the same person this site would have 1 person on it aside from you.I love how certain groups translate "opposing views"=extremists...very amusing I must say.
Revolver, not really given up I just don't care lol. I've already disputed and counterproved those points or concerning the leftwing screw ups, which you conveniently ignored. So I've come to realize how you work. I know how you people think now and feel it's easier to let you believe whatever you wish, I'm sure you know everything just out of high school. Ahh, those were the days before life taught me so much.
@Purple, again like I said I treat others how I'd like to be treated but since you can't seem to get past that whole "no, no you're the crazy one" stage since I just don't agree with you, I'll let you believe just that. And again, actually no like I said I didn't bump tthis thread, you can thank your pal rev for that assuming you're not him on another name since you see to see the glass half full, but that's Ok I'm beginning to understand how your mind works, even if I don't particularly agree with it.
Lmao you didn't disprove or counter shit dude.... your perseverance in your beliefs in impressive, however. After all this, you still think you somehow came out on top. Yes, I'm relatively young (a college sophomore), but you know how much influence age has on actual facts? Zero. The consensus of the scientific community based on dozens of recent studies on the effects of marijuana determines what those effects are, not my assumed immature beliefs. Hundreds of archived news reports on political actions and events around the world determines what history is, not my opinions.Revolver, not really given up I just don't care lol. I've already disputed and counterproved those points or concerning the leftwing screw ups, which you conveniently ignored. So I've come to realize how you work. I know how you people think now and feel it's easier to let you believe whatever you wish, I'm sure you know everything just out of high school. Ahh, those were the days before life taught me so much.
Because we aren't given much of a choice. No matter how good it feels, a vote for someone else is a wasted vote. By the way, pepsi is a cola. You're thinking of coke. lol. But if we're deciding the national soda, and most of the country is drinking pepsi or coke, no one's going to give two shits if you're off in the corner sipping on some fanta. It doesn't matter if you like it better, it's meaningless and you're better off helping to make the right choice out of the ones who actually stand a chance.Why is anyone even talking about Romney or Obama?
Surely there is a 3rd option, or do you all enjoy drinking pepsi and cola all the time?
I disagree 100%. It is always productive to vote for the lesser of two evils. When you have a choice between preventing things from getting worse and doing nothing, I don't see why you would just do nothing. Yes, other countries electoral systems are probably superior to ours, but boycotting the election or voting for a 3rd party on principle is not helping our country.It's still not productive to vote for the lesser of two evils.
Sure on one occasion you did but he's done it plenty on his own as well and will no doubt again. The only thing he owns is a warped sense of reality.But Purple Haze , MKF is correct in that I bumped the thread, not him. However, this was only because he so hilariously stated he "owned" me here in another thread.
Very true.but you know how much influence age has on actual facts? Zero.
There are plenty of 3rd options. Which one do you think would be so different to the main two?Why is anyone even talking about Romney or Obama?
Surely there is a 3rd option, or do you all enjoy drinking pepsi and cola all the time?
Perhaps I could have worded that better, it's less bad to vote for the lesser of two evils, but not really productive given that we're still getting screwed either way.I disagree 100%. It is always productive to vote for the lesser of two evils. When you have a choice between preventing things from getting worse and doing nothing, I don't see why you would just do nothing. Yes, other countries electoral systems are probably superior to ours, but boycotting the election or voting for a 3rd party on principle is not helping our country.
I disagree with you here. I think the Republicans will win. I think the main reason Obama got into power in the first place was as a protest vote against the Bush regime who most of the country, even many conservatives were sick of. Plus those blacks who voted for him just because they had the misguided notion that 'one of their own' would somehow make life better for them won't bother voting for him this time probably.but I fully expect Obama to win again anyway
That's what I mean though. The cans might look the same, but a can of coke and a can of pepsi are essentially the same thing, just like a Dem candidate and a Republican candidate.Because we aren't given much of a choice. No matter how good it feels, a vote for someone else is a wasted vote. By the way, pepsi is a cola. You're thinking of coke. lol. But if we're deciding the national soda, and most of the country is drinking pepsi or coke, no one's going to give two shits if you're off in the corner sipping on some fanta. It doesn't matter if you like it better, it's meaningless and you're better off helping to make the right choice out of the ones who actually stand a chance.
Well maybe they will, but as I said, getting rid of incumbents is damn near impossible, it's why Bush stayed around as well. How many one term presidents have we had? I can't think of many other than like Jimmy Carter..I think?I disagree with you here. I think the Republicans will win. I think the main reason Obama got into power in the first place was as a protest vote against the Bush regime who most of the country, even many conservatives were sick of. Plus those blacks who voted for him just because they had the misguided notion that 'one of their own' would somehow make life better for them won't bother voting for him this time probably.
My knowledge on american fringe parties is quite bare, but surely one of them has to be a better alternative to Obama or Romney. Whoever wins out of those two, your country will be demanding they get out in 4 years time. Why wait till then, when you can effect real change now and get both of those 20th century dinosaurs out.Sure on one occasion you did but he's done it plenty on his own as well and will no doubt again. The only thing he owns is a warped sense of reality.
Very true.
There are plenty of 3rd options. Which one do you think would be so different to the main two?
American history is full of politicians or community leaders who tried to be different and who spoke out about the system.My knowledge on american fringe parties is quite bare, but surely one of them has to be a better alternative to Obama or Romney. Whoever wins out of those two, your country will be demanding they get out in 4 years time. Why wait till then, when you can effect real change now and get both of those 20th century dinosaurs out.
It's all about matchups. Obama was 8-2 against Bush because of things like the unpopular Iraq war and the fact Bush was dumb and embarrassing for the country.Well maybe they will, but as I said, getting rid of incumbents is damn near impossible, it's why Bush stayed around as well. How many one term presidents have we had? I can't think of many other than like Jimmy Carter..I think?
Black people don't make up a large enough percent of the population to get someone elected and as a Black person, I did not vote for him for those reasons, I voted for him because he seemed to be a very tolerant, progressive minded leader, who made promises of ending the wars we are in, changing up our relationship with Israel, and a plethora of other things. Some people might have stupidly voted for him for those reasons, but I imagine most didn't.
The democrats were going to get back in anyway, that was why the legislature became heavily dominated by Democrats as well.
Perhaps I could have worded that better, it's less bad to vote for the lesser of two evils, but not really productive given that we're still getting screwed either way.
I've heard this talking point a lot and completely disagree with it. There WILL be a difference depending who we put in office. If we voted in McCain in 2008 instead of Obama, I really think we could have been preparing for a war with Iran right now. You might get screwed either way, but one will be worse than the other. It's like, if you have the choice between killing 50 people and 60 people, would you just say "it doesn't matter"? No. There's a clear difference there.That's what I mean though. The cans might look the same, but a can of coke and a can of pepsi are essentially the same thing, just like a Dem candidate and a Republican candidate.
I don't think the protest is large enough to take a Democrat out of office. With Bush, it was more like "this fucking sucks, we need to get rid of this right wing shit". Right now, it's more like a general "this one is better tan the other". I really think any republican would be considered an underdog for national office right now. When Romney gets more focus and when he actually debates Obama in the coming months, I fully expect positive opinions to change. We already know who Obama is, but so far Romney's only had a sliver of the spotlight.I disagree with you here. I think the Republicans will win. I think the main reason Obama got into power in the first place was as a protest vote against the Bush regime who most of the country, even many conservatives were sick of. Plus those blacks who voted for him just because they had the misguided notion that 'one of their own' would somehow make life better for them won't bother voting for him this time probably.