I think design wise, characters are great and fun to play.
Designs like Ermac, Quan Chi, Geras, General Shao, are some of the best designs NRS has ever done.
I think design wise, characters are great and fun to play.
It's not bad faith to ridicule people who can't use reason and try to sound like the authority, it's just, erm, rude.
Who said you were bad faith? I said you were GOOD faith. ;-)
Emotionally stable as ever, my friend.
Sparking Zero isn't a FG imo, that's like saying Naruto is a FG, etc. None of those types of games are FGs I'd argue.
I swear the "xyz FG is a one player game" meme started from MKX lol. I remember all the diss. We had:
That's like the "passive casual". There's layers imo. My close friend is a "hardcore casual", as in she plays MK games a lot, will replay the story multiple times, buy DLC, play with her partner and son a lot, care about the characters and story, care about all the costume stuff. But at the same time, she can barely do a 4 hit combo after all these years, won't play online unless there's an achievement to unlock, probably has never opened practice mode, etc.
Yeah, later the line these are over the top indeed, sadly same can't be said about the majority of the roster, however the latest dlc ones have been all bangers and though out.
See I agree that it felt like a one player game sometimes but the schizophrenic rat race to be the one to abuse the opponent before you get knocked down and can’t get back up was some good depraved fun. (I don’t think this speaks well for the game, but it did make it addicting in the same way COD is).
the game also received a lot of patches and got better overtime, the current mkxl isn't the version we played until 2016 which is where most of these memes come in.
You know what that sounds like? The infamous "one more patch" positions that always manifested after the fact lol.
the MKXL sad fact it's, that one more patch came, but everyone gave up immediately, so the current version i'ts underexplored by pros.
I just checked it out, yea looks like dudes are actually better now from what I just saw haha. This is why we need a game to just stick with long term.
Sounds very similar to my wife.
Mine too haha but she's more of the passive casual. She wants to "watch me play the story" and thought the ending of MK1 with them all at the table was the greatest thing ever. I had to get Khaos Reign because she "wanted to see what happens to Sub-Zero" LOL! But if I play an online match she's instantly like "let me go do this other thing".
Yeah. My wife checks out the MK reddit and Facebook, but doesn't post herself. She won't play online, but often I'm sitting on the couch playing on my Xbox and she's sitting beside me playing on her Switch. She enjoys the Story Modes, Towers, and plays but was also disappointed with Invasions. 4-hit kombos for her, even though I know she can do them when she tries, she finds very intimidating.
My wife couldn’t watch me play online either but she would cheer for me from the other room if she heard “Sub-Zero wins”
I keep trying to write the response to this in some sort of "MK2/UMK3 + modern stuff", but honestly when I look at it, that boils down to "just MK9 that works with some of what they've learned added".
In that same video, 2 mins in, he says "a bottom 10 character like sub-zero could consistently make top8". I'm sorry, WHAT? What top 8s were Nightwolf, Sheeva, Jade, Kano, Stryker, Quan Chi, Baraka, Sindel, Cyber Sub, Noob, Ermac and Raiden consistently making? lmao
Meh. So he's bottom what then? 11? 12? Yes there's a sharp drop off where we go from "bad but playable" to "literally does not fucking work", but I think the point stands.
The thing is, no character below upper A+ (save for CD JRs Jax and maybe SonicFoxs Mileena) made consistent top 8s. It is disingeniously trying to paint MK9 as more balanced than subsequent titles, which it abso-fucking-lutely was not. The rest of the video says things about "combo paths were different" well guess what you can do with kameos, my guy? That's right, the biggest combo diversity ever seen in NRS. Ither things like Raiden's placement after an electric fly were most likely not intended, so its weird to praise the game for that. Overall I found the video in question to raise very skewed points.
I disagree pretty heavily on kameo's being better combo variety. You know from the moment you leave the character select screen the majority of the combo's you're going to see. There's more actual in match combo route variety in MK9 that in MK1, and visually it's a hell of a lot more interesting too. Watching someone do janet triple punch/ferra slap/scorpion hell breath X times is not very interesting strategically or visually.
Yeah, in MK9 you knew exactly what combos you'd see (or lack thereof in the case of heavy zoners) the moment you left the character select screen as well, but even more pronouncedly. Scorpion would go for vortexes, Sub-zero into clone fishes or refreezes with b2, Sonya with d4 into cartwheel over and over until it hit and, last but not least, Kabal's "hey, hey-ey" combos. Dude, literally, a combo string became so repetitive it became a rhythmic ritual to chant while it was on screen. The SAME Cyrax reset the moment a bomb touched you. At least with Kameos, you get different routes depending on which one you decide to pair with your character - that is the opposite of "less combo variety", by definition.
