Support for MK1 Supposedly Cancelled

[MK9KevAgain]

Imagine if the leaks are true and KP3 is cancelled and we get Meat and Mokap as our final Kameos.

 

[Lt. Boxy Angelman]

Imagine if the leaks are true and KP3 is cancelled and we get Meat and Mokap as our final Kameos.

I'm still not convinced that Kreate-A-Fighter isn't going to happen. Everything about all the mashed together characters throughout the story and Invasions could easily lead one to believe that that's always been what the middle Character Select spot is for.

That would be the most 3D MK thing ever if those two came along with it, in a game that also has air combos and the worst story out of the entire generation of games.

Also, the fact that 2006 was almost 20 years ago is wild.

 

[Eji1700]

I'm still not convinced that Kreate-A-Fighter isn't going to happen. Everything about all the mashed together characters throughout the story and Invasions could easily lead one to believe that that's always been what the middle Character Select spot is for.

That would be the most 3D MK thing ever if those two came along with it, in a game that also has air combos and the worst story out of the entire generation of games.

Also, the fact that 2006 was almost 20 years ago is wild.

Eh mashing together characters on the backend is one thing. Building all the interfaces and sanity checking combinations for players to interact is the majority of the work in many ways. One of your team can mash together some move on a model that just doesn't work and say "meh fuck it" and just not do it. Not an acceptable outcome for the player usually.

 

[Krasiox]

I'm still not convinced that Kreate-A-Fighter isn't going to happen. Everything about all the mashed together characters throughout the story and Invasions could easily lead one to believe that that's always been what the middle Character Select spot is for.

That would be the most 3D MK thing ever if those two came along with it, in a game that also has air combos and the worst story out of the entire generation of games.

Also, the fact that 2006 was almost 20 years ago is wild.

Happening in MK1? LOL.
Floyd, HarumI, Kombat Kodes, Kreate a Fighter, Test your A/B/C, Tag Team Mode, Mercy, Endurance, "Special suprise after Khaos Reigns", KP3, and all other things floathing on that one doc sheet datamined from day 1 and said directly by Ed Boon deffinitely not happening.

 

[Lt. Boxy Angelman]

Happening in MK1? LOL.
Floyd, HarumI, Kombad Kodes, Kreate a Fighter, Test your A/B/C, Tag Team Mode, Mercy, Endurance, "Special suprise after Khaos Reigns", KP3, and all other things floathing on that one doc sheet datamined from day 1 and said directly by Ed Boon deffinitely not happening.

You mean the same guy who said that MK1 was going to be the longest-supported MK game ever, and now we're here in this thread talking about how that's no longer the case?

 

[MK9KevAgain]

I'm still not convinced that Kreate-A-Fighter isn't going to happen. Everything about all the mashed together characters throughout the story and Invasions could easily lead one to believe that that's always been what the middle Character Select spot is for.

That would be the most 3D MK thing ever if those two came along with it, in a game that also has air combos and the worst story out of the entire generation of games.

Also, the fact that 2006 was almost 20 years ago is wild.

KAF is gonna stay in the past. All those mashup characters was to give in to the whole multiverse crap. MK’s quality will never bring something like that again, and if they do it’ll be some lackluster effort. People have been asking for years to bring back certain game modes, and I’ve noticed that they love to almost play with our hopes of seeing it again. Why even mention something like Chess Kombat or Motor Kombat if they’re not even interested in adding it in the first place? It’s like they know we want those modes back, and they dangle it over our heads! And MK desperately needs a new mode besides the story and fighting.

 

[Felipe_Gewehr]

KAF is gonna stay in the past. All those mashup characters was to give in to the whole multiverse crap. MK’s quality will never bring something like that again, and if they do it’ll be some lackluster effort. People have been asking for years to bring back certain game modes, and I’ve noticed that they love to almost play with our hopes of seeing it again. Why even mention something like Chess Kombat or Motor Kombat if they’re not even interested in adding it in the first place? It’s like they know we want those modes back, and they dangle it over our heads! And MK desperately needs a new mode besides the story and fighting.

The worst thing is that Invasions could've lots of quirky nodes WITH chess kombat or puzzle kombat but instead we got "kill this character while rockets fly on the screen for the millionth time" over and over and OVER again, for every mesa, in multiple seasons. Had they done TWO mesas with more diverse nodes (like the challenge tower from mk9), Invasions would've been a decent singleplayer experience.

 

[MK9KevAgain]

The worst thing is that Invasions could've lots of quirky nodes WITH chess kombat or puzzle kombat but instead we got "kill this character while rockets fly on the screen for the millionth time" over and over and OVER again, for every mesa, in multiple seasons. Had they done TWO mesas with more diverse nodes (like the challenge tower from mk9), Invasions would've been a decent singleplayer experience.

Yuppp. I literally haven’t touched Invasions since season fucking two. I really thought this was going to be something akin to the 3D era of game modes. But yet again… fumbled. It’s so sad.

 

[TarkatanPeriodontik]

"fumbled" is a good verb to use for it! In the lead up to release, I believe Polygon ran a piece saying Invasions would be like Mario Party - which is exactly what some of you are describing when you suggest adding more nodes and modes to the board. It's weird that it's in a boardgame format when there's barely any variance on the different places you land. It's like playing a boardgame like the game of LIFE but every space leads to tic tac toe, why would it need to be in a boardgame format?
It seems like they had some cool plans, but not the budget/time to execute them. Like what must have happened with warrior shrine, what we got is most likely not what they had planned. A big fumble, probably also evidence of financial types and not visionaries running the business.

 

[Felipe_Gewehr]

"fumbled" is a good verb to use for it! In the lead up to release, I believe Polygon ran a piece saying Invasions would be like Mario Party - which is exactly what some of you are describing when you suggest adding more nodes and modes to the board. It's weird that it's in a boardgame format when there's barely any variance on the different places you land. It's like playing a boardgame like the game of LIFE but every space leads to tic tac toe, why would it need to be in a boardgame format?
It seems like they had some cool plans, but not the budget/time to execute them. Like what must have happened with warrior shrine, what we got is most likely not what they had planned. A big fumble, probably also evidence of financial types and not visionaries running the business.

The first leak mentioning Invasions also called it "something like the World of Light from Smash Bros" and that it could be scrapped altogether. Even before they had announced this mode, it was already something that could simply not ship with the game lmao

 

[Juggs]

For those who think MK1 is a failure and that NRS is in a bad place, what do you think they should or could do for either MK1, or for the next title, that would make you label it as a success and also what would make you say that NRS is heading in a good place? Just curious to know what solutions y’all have in mind.

 

[Eji1700]

For those who think MK1 is a failure and that NRS is in a bad place, what do you think they should or could do for either MK1, or for the next title, that would make you label it as a success and also what would make you say that NRS is heading in a good place? Just curious to know what solutions y’all have in mind.

In regards to a good game, in regards to a market success, or both?

 

[ImpostorOak]

For those who think MK1 is a failure and that NRS is in a bad place, what do you think they should or could do for either MK1, or for the next title, that would make you label it as a success and also what would make you say that NRS is heading in a good place? Just curious to know what solutions y’all have in mind.

An actual reboot. Start at the 10th tournament. There can be retcons, but they should be either minor, or things that became canon later in the series, like Noob being Bi-Han being revealed earlier, getting Cyrax and Sektor as humans first, etc.

Rethink the story presentation. Something like Konquest is 100% the way to get the most people hyped, but I'd personally like Story Towers like was suggested on a post here.

Modes. Casuals and a lot of pro players too want things like Chess Kombat and Motor Kombat back. Krypt should be a mainstay.

Complete characters. No Kameos. Variations can work as add on moves, but don't remove classic moves to make them variation moves. Let characters have enough shit in their kit for player expression. I'd prefer no variations, nothing.

Movement and character animation fluidity needs to be a big focus. Mortal Kombat looks janky and frankly ugly to a lot of people due to stiff animations. We're seeing that aspect of the game lambasted after the Conan trailer.

Less Guests. I personally think that Mortal Kombats image of the "Facebook Dad fighting game," hurts it a lot in the FGC and shit like Rambo and Conan and all of this isn't making the game look very hip. As much as I hate the kids these days, we need relevant and fitting guests or to seriously dial back how many boomer darlings were getting.

I don't think their plan of putting the fan favorite characters as DLC was a long term success. I think its better suited for the highly popular secondary characters, Fujin, Rain, Tremor, etc. It felt shitty paying for Ermac and Quan when they were in the story, and a lot of people were not happy with Cyrax and Sektor, and apparently even more people just didn't buy the content. I think that DLC prices and contents need to be reevaluated before the next game.

People like to play dress up in fighting games. No clue why they went backwards with that.

Fast gameplay is fun gameplay.

I personally think from strictly a balance perspective, MK1 is heading in a good direction, but NRS shows incompetence too often for me to praise that. MK1 won't ever become something I consider good, because I would prefer to not have Kameos and for gameplay to feel fast and much smoother. I think what I want will take a new game.

I think that Mortal Kombat will have to be separated from WB. I can't think of WBs last good game free from controversy. Probably Hogwarts Legacy. WB is handling Multiversus pretty shitty also, after buying its Dev.

I want complete characters, large move lists, run button, flawless block reversals, mid combo throws, fluid animations that really make you feel like Spider-Man, a counter hit crushing blow system. Basically, take MKX and add in the best of MK1, refine that, and just spend a billion dollars on animations.

 

[Vulgar]

I personally wouldn't want a return to MKX style gameplay. I found the neutral and whiff punishing to be....non-existant.

This was a popular opinion during the game's tournament life as well.

Generally, I think the movement of MK1 or MK9 with the dash canceling and the like to be more enjoyable, but that's just me.

I was thinking that after MK11 Aftermath that we'd see the Mortal Kombat tournament where The Great Kung Lao defeated Shang Tsung. Or something like that. A sort of prequel.

I think that has possibilities.

But I'd rather not see a return of blocked string into armored launcher into hard knockdown into pressure/mix that we got with some characters at the end of MKX. They did remove a lot of the armored launchers in the game, but there were characters that kept it at the cost of two bars.

Regardless of what they do, I'd love for the discourse online and general player base to not be as divided as it is now.

One can dream.

 

[ImpostorOak]

I personally wouldn't want a return to MKX style gameplay. I found the neutral and whiff punishing to be....non-existant.

This was a popular opinion during the game's tournament life as well.

Generally, I think the movement of MK1 or MK9 with the dash canceling and the like to be more enjoyable, but that's just me.

I was thinking that after MK11 Aftermath that we'd see the Mortal Kombat tournament where The Great Kung Lao defeated Shang Tsung. Or something like that. A sort of prequel.

I think that has possibilities.

But I'd rather not see a return of blocked string into armored launcher into hard knockdown into pressure/mix that we got with some characters at the end of MKX. They did remove a lot of the armored launchers in the game, but there were characters that kept it at the cost of two bars.

Regardless of what they do, I'd love for the discourse online and general player base to not be as divided as it is now.

One can dream.

I reeeeallly don't think the discourse is all that divided. 90% of the public opinion is negative. You have a myopic view because you're very vocal about the minority opinion.

Were pretty much as a community saying this shit sucked, please do better.

 

[SaltShaker]

I reeeeallly don't think the discourse is all that divided. 90% of the public opinion is negative. You have a myopic view because you're very vocal about the minority opinion.

Were pretty much as a community saying this shit sucked, please do better.

MKX? Nah lol there has been a LOTtttt of revisionist history with that game the last few months.

 

[Vulgar]

I reeeeallly don't think the discourse is all that divided. 90% of the public opinion is negative. You have a myopic view because you're very vocal about the minority opinion.

Were pretty much as a community saying this shit sucked, please do better.

You haven't been paying attention to anything outside TYM, then.

 

[ImpostorOak]

You haven't been paying attention to anything outside TYM, then.

It's crazy cause I can just open any social and never see much positive about the game except the odd casual saying, "zomg I did a combo!!"

 

[ImpostorOak]

 

[ImpostorOak]

MKX? Nah lol there has been a LOTtttt of revisionist history with that game the last few months.

The discourse around MK1, currently.

 

[Eldriken]

Learn to use spoiler tags, you ass, @ImpostorOak. That or resize your images.

 

[Vulgar]

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It's crazy cause I can just open any social and never see much positive about the game except the odd casual saying, "zomg I did a combo!!"

Oh no, lads, he's got an out-of-context Twitter thread and screen shots of random YouTube'ers and Redditors. You may as well have Nickopz and TrueUnderdawg on there.

Rip's Arena
CoTR
TNS
The Kolosseum
Content Creators such as Sonic Fox, Honeybee, Rewind, Tweedy, (and the people that watch those streams and YouTube highlights) etc.

Note, I did not say the game was universally loved or hated, I said it was divisive.

I could cherry pick people on this very thread, on places like YouTube and Twitter that support what I'm saying, but I don't think I'm making an especially hot take.

Unless, of course, you think "divisive" means, "an even 50/50 split between likes and dislikes."

 

[YagamiFire]

"Special suprise after Khaos Reigns"

Games support is cancelled! SURPRISE!

Oh that cheeky Uncle Ed!

 

[ImpostorOak]

Mortal Kombat 1 is MK vs DC for Zoomers and I'll

Oh no, lads, he's got an out-of-context Twitter thread and screen shots of random YouTube'ers and Redditors. You may as well have Nickopz and TrueUnderdawg on there.

Rip's Arena
CoTR
TNS
The Kolosseum
Content Creators such as Sonic Fox, Honeybee, Rewind, Tweedy, (and the people that watch those streams and YouTube highlights) etc.

Note, I did not say the game was universally loved or hated, I said it was divisive.

I could cherry pick people on this very thread, on places like YouTube and Twitter that support what I'm saying, but I don't think I'm making an especially hot take.

Unless, of course, you think "divisive" means, "an even 50/50 split between likes and dislikes."

Bro, I'm being so deadass with you.

I didn't have to cherry pick. I don't have an agenda here. I went to my own personal social media pages and searched "Mortal Kombat" and these were TOP, RECENT results.

I'm responding to your claim that I only pay attention to TYM. I'm refuting that with evidence that I see this opinion EVERYWHERE.

So boom you lose goodnight

Now your next point, are you on the discord? I never saw you on there. Screenshots don't seem to prove anything, but I opened the app and there was someone saying they hate the game in the general, and the gamesearch is dry, and they have Tekken Monday now, and I really doubt Tekken has an MK Monday on their top discord if we're keeping it a buck.

They numbers is dropping, too, family. And a couple of those YT Bois, I watch, and they aren't exactly positive on the game. I think divisive would imply it's somewhat controversial. It isn't.

I think 100% of the people that like the game as much as they do, are sweats, pros, competitive players, or what have you. I get it. This is much better than mk11 and I played the shit out of that game. People hated MKX, apparently, and people played the shit out of it, too. It's what we all do. This is our game. That's a very small number of people, though. The public reception has been damaged, at large. If you believe the leaks, which I do, it's obvious that this is true.

And then, out of us, the more dedicated community, a LARGE portion of us really expect a lot more from Mortal Kombat at this point, or didn't want an assist fighter, or think the game is either too busted or too limited depending who you ask, or some combination of all of that.

I believe people genuinely like this game. It's just not enough people for me to call it divisive. I just think you guys really enjoy a bad game.

 

[M2Dave]

Oh no, lads, he's got an out-of-context Twitter thread and screen shots of random YouTube'ers and Redditors.

Really?

Your entire spiel on TYM involves gaslighting, false equivalencies, and the misrepresentation of people's opinions.




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Please do not stop posting, though.

Mortal Kombat 1 and by extension this website are kind of dead.

When we have a bad day at work, we need a clown to entertain us.

You always deliver.