MK1 (2023) Gameplay Mechanics Discussion

[Skybox]

Teabagging a bunch will make your fighter do a taunt, Too

 

[xWildx]

They gave Kitana ground setups. Her corner game might be godlike. This interests me.

 

[santanabar]

My gameplay takes so far:

Good:

• No variations or pick you moves
• Characters have a huge variety of special moves
• Simple strings input
• So far I didn't see any down back forward command like input, hate those....
• Air combo extensions
• Regular meter is back, defense meter gone
• Throw animations are shorted compared to MK11
• Characters are not locked to be main or Kameo, so if you fav character is a Kameo it doesn't necessarily means that it won't be available as main character
• As expected it looks gorgeous, stages in particular

Bad:

• It seems dash cancelling is back... I just hope they improve dashing in general, instead of implementing again this dash block/down cancel bs
• It just feels pretty MK11ish, I don't see any reason why we are not having back the down poke into throw/special move meta again
• No interactables!

-It's very early to tell, but I didn't see much "uniqueness" in character gameplay. The only thing is this Kenshi shadow thing that mimic your moves. I want more unique things like that for each character

 

[Evil Canadian]

heres your exklusive

clone is back

but only cause its super nerfed

it lasts like maybe 3 seconds tops

 

[CrimsonShadow]

heres your exklusive

clone is back

but only cause its super nerfed

it lasts like maybe 3 seconds tops

Had that one covered in the rolling list of specials here:

Sub Zero Has a Divekick? Early Special Moves Discussion

I'm going to update this OP with things we saw in the trailer and demo as I collect them. Feel free to point out special moves you noticed today! Disclaimer: As always, MK has some normals that appear to be special-like, so we won't know for sure until we see more gameplay. Sub-Zero Ice Ball...

testyourmight.com

But if there are any other specials you want to shed light on there, that would be cool, since I'm not sure how the names of some of them associate with what we're seeing onscreen.

 

[CrimsonShadow]

• Attack ranges are restricted just like MK9, no string was shown to travel across the screen in 3 hits like MKX/MK11 kotal

Looking at Sub and Lao's footsies, they travel a fair bit — not to insane MKX levels, but they look a bit more MK11 than MK9 lol

 

[Pizza]

2:30

So now Kenshi kinda fits in the Puppet Archetype. Very interesting. Boon says he's sophisticated, I think he's going to be very technical. The whole thing about releasing the ghost and controlling it independently from Kenshi is 100% Puppet Archetype. I think this is a first time for MK, right? Puppet Archetypes are frequent in anime fgs but I don't remember any MK character fitting into the archetype.

 

[Felipe_Gewehr]

Upper blocking overheads will make them (more?) unsafe!

 

[StormGoddess]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1667260649544777728

 

[StormGoddess]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1667257130863439872

 

[Felipe_Gewehr]

Foward throws are always with kameos BUT dont spend kameo bars!

 

[Eddy Wang]

Looking at Sub and Lao's footsies, they travel a fair bit — not to insane MKX levels, but they look a bit more MK11 than MK9 lol

not even close, there are characters you can't hit if you jump out of their strings reach, i've seen sub-zero being hit on the second stage of his string after a jump out, so it's definitely reduced in how far it reaches, another plus.

 

[Savage8-8]

In the IGN playthrough at 2:46 Kenshi does a fatal blow. Sub tries to interrupt it and it has armor....so from the looks of it Fatal blows do have armor?

 

[superbn0va]

MK1 being a love letter to MK9 in terms of how ex moves and defensive options work has me excited. I also like that the first hit bonus is back.

Only complaints I have:

* How some of the jumping animations look. For example, Subzero jumping animation reminds me more of a Superman jump.

* How the kameos get in and get out after doing their thing. It looks a bit too much like a wrestling tag team attack. I preferred to see it more similar to CvsM2

 

[Eddy Wang]

MK1 being a love letter to MK9 in terms of how ex moves and defensive options work has me excited. I also like that the first hit bonus is back.

Only complaints I have:

* How some of the jumping animations look. For example, Subzero jumping animation reminds me more of a Superman jump.

* How the kameos get in and get out after doing their thing. It looks a bit too much like a wrestling tag team attack. I preferred to see it more similar to CvsM2

i think everyone should have the classic flip and all should've been standard height, the jump animation it's something it carried over from mk11 and i didn't like it, also because some thing were unavoidable by jumping.

 

[ChaosTheory]

Has anybody explained the movement a little more? My first reaction is that they want you to be able to cancel your dash to defend or maybe extend the range of a low poke (basic stuff)... But they don't want the wavedash-type movement?

Also, what's the input for up block?

 

[ismael4790]

I don't know if this has been mentioned, but Kameo throws can give different amounts of damage. Jax does 100, Kano 110 and Sonya gives 130.

 

[Vslayer]

Has anybody explained the movement a little more? My first reaction is that they want you to be able to cancel your dash to defend or maybe extend the range of a low poke (basic stuff)... But they don't want the wavedash-type movement?

Also, what's the input for up block?

Sonic said you have to commit to dashing mostly.

 

[Eddy Wang]

I don't know if this has been mentioned, but Kameo throws can give different amounts of damage. Jax does 100, Kano 110 and Sonya gives 130.

they are also archtypes
Jax is a defensive kameo
Sonya an offence one
while Kano works like the medium in between.

 

[Kenshi_mk]

Sonic Fox Twitter copy/paste (played it himself at invite event)

• Breakers cost 3 bars of meter AND your kameo has to be ready.

I think you just need 3 meter bars.
As seen above, the kameo meter was neither ready (50%) nor full during the breaker (unless I misunderstood).
Also, the breaker animation doesn't freeze the kameo's meter cooldown.

 

[Tony at Home]

Upblock is interesting. I'd rather AAs be good enough that I wouldn't need it. Like if I know you're going to jump and I have time you should be getting juggled- if I play Sheeva in MK11 and I know your going to jump- you are getting combo'd, I don't need to leave myself open to you making a read and empty jumping, the moment you leave the air you are getting hurt. Methinks jump attacks must be amped up in this game like Injustice.

I'll miss flawless block plus frame negation.

Good to hear walkspeed is good. It honestly looked good but every shitty FG youtuber was like "wow it looks so slow" so I was a little gaslight into thinking that may be the case.

I think I'm overall happy about EX moves over meter burn. I think both systems have positives but meter burn options in MK11 went a bit too far- let me punish things plz

Fatal blows have no armor. Don't get caught mashing

This- this right here makes me happier than any change.

 

[Sugarwatermixlegit]

I know it’s been said forward throws require your kameo, but I noticed if your kameo meter is gone or they’re already on the screen, your character does this generic empty shove. It looks like it may act as a MB throw from MKX, which could allow for some sauce

 

[ismael4790]

Upblock is interesting. I'd rather AAs be good enough that I wouldn't need it. Like if I know you're going to jump and I have time you should be getting juggled- if I play Sheeva in MK11 and I know your going to jump- you are getting combo'd, I don't need to leave myself open to you making a read and empty jumping, the moment you leave the air you are getting hurt. Methinks jump attacks must be amped up in this game like Injustice.

I'll miss flawless block plus frame negation.

Good to hear walkspeed is good. It honestly looked good but every shitty FG youtuber was like "wow it looks so slow" so I was a little gaslight into thinking that may be the case.

I think I'm overall happy about EX moves over meter burn. I think both systems have positives but meter burn options in MK11 went a bit too far- let me punish things plz




This- this right here makes me happier than any change.

I agree, hope antiairs are decent. The opponent shouldn't put you into a guess to counter his jumps. I assume up block leads to massive damage so the risk of doing it is worth it.

 

[Vslayer]

do character have their own throws? I haven't seen one

yep, roster characters have their throws and you can also use Kameo throws.

 

[santanabar]

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I think you just need 3 meter bars.
As seen above, the kameo meter was neither ready (50%) nor full during the breaker (unless I misunderstood).
Also, the breaker animation doesn't freeze the kameo's meter cooldown.

By "kameo has to be ready" I think he is referring that it should be animation locked doing another move, it's not about the meter.
Same this happens for forward throws, if you kameo is on screen doing another animation, your throw will fail (you will just push your opponent).