This reminds me of another frame data thing I can't believe i didn't mention earlier, because my buddy;s other main is Noob. I've had an issue with Noob throwing a d1 (which I block) and following up with a B1-starter that knocks me out of my retaliatory (mashed) d1 despite me having a roughly 6-frame advantage. Have you ever been able to pull that off with Noob?
I rarely did that online. For me it usually happens if they block my d3, walk back and try to do an advancing mid (9, 10 or 11f). Even after a blocked d3 I was still in range to land the B1 1+3 KB. It's funky stuff that happens online. I'll lab it tonight tho to see what's going on.
Just being a jedi master and practicing poke jailing, jk.
Someone actually asked me to do this before and I admit, I couldn't do 10 in a row. Maybe you do have to be Jedi Knight for that but that doesn't mean you can't confirm D1s and D3s. The thing about that challenge is that it's very exhausting, mentally. You can get a few but you'll fuck up eventually. But that's not even the point. It's not about getting S1 jails after D1 consistently. Only once or twice is enough for you to get 60% of their life bar and respect for your down pokes and +frames. It's to make them block. And against those players you'll confirm D1s very easily because you know it's gonna hit before you even throw it out.
B1 moves his him backwards a little which could give a frame or 2 of wiggle room only on stubby d1s though
Also add that during his B1, his shadow doesn't have a hurtbox
That absolutely means that you can't hit-confirm that. You're just doing things. When I play without online delay, I can see d3 being hit-confirmable into s1. d1 it's bullshit though and online it's bullshit too.
That's exactly what's happening atm. I'm playing with a friend and it's not joke that whenever I do successful d1 or d3 I get flat out d2'd. It's so frustrating asf. I can't predict things like that.
I just really don't enjoy the decision-making in Mk11 very much.
Honestly it's something that needs to be fixed imo. Part of me says "Beat it. Adapt to the new system." but another part of me says to stop playing until the pokes are addressed. I know it's a different game, but in MKX I never had this problem. Sektor's S1 was a 7f high and I could still jail with it successfully. Noob also has a 7f S1 but it's so hard to jail so that you don't get disperected.Man isn't that how it goes? I constantly throw after successful d1s just because I know another downpoke is usually coming afterward. What happens is eventually he gets tired of getting thrown and instead of stopping the retaliatory downpokes, he starts mashing d2 instead to avoid the throw. Then I get irritated and start trying to spam d2 just to show him up and round and round we go.
People can try their mileage.
Man, people can't even block a 19f move consistently and you expect me to confirm D1s 10 times in a row which is 3-4f window. All that while also blocking on block and with no other information about my opponent or kounter hit message etc.
I don't expect you to do that, man. I'm just saying what I dislike about the game. I don't like the poking system being a 50/50 guess when other fighting games let you hit-confirm single normals into specials.
I don't buy it either. My friend knows he can disrespect my pokes on hit and F2, S1 & 21 and just flat out do d2's. Honestly, the game is not enjoyable this way.
Im not sure for everyone else but i have no problems hitconfirming d3. Then again i play on pc without the console inputdelay.
What character do you play? 9-15f mids frametrap from most pokes on hit too. If you‘re only limited to highs it‘s pretty shitty but doable after some practice
Can you jail D1 for Noob into S2?
Noob's d1 is +11 on hit. Correct me if I'm wrong, but my S1 is 7f startup. So, in theory, it should jail. D3 is +10 on hit and it jails with S1 (Timing is strict, tho). So I'm wondering why in the hell i'm getting d2'd to dead because of this.
Noob's D3 is +12 on hit, which is likely why it works but with a strict timing.
I play on console and I can hit-confirm Scorpion's d3 into his s1 if I turn off the online delay. The thing is that most d1s jail into s1 and most d3s jail into s2, which makes me think they designed it that way. Also in one of the patches they corrected most pokes frame advantages so most can jail that way.