SaSSolino
Soul Stealing Loyalist
Yeah no, Sonya's projectile dictates neutral, and she can use it to zone him out too. Hell, even her version of corpse drop is stronger.
My best way to describe that MU would be "tragic".
Yeah no, Sonya's projectile dictates neutral, and she can use it to zone him out too. Hell, even her version of corpse drop is stronger.
Whoa whoa whoa there pardner, what do you have against KL?Just wanna get this off my chest.....
FUCK KUNG LAO!
Thats it.....y'all have a Righteous day
He's been the most trouble for me all of a sudden.
I agree with everything you said but how are his pokes bad? His D1 is 8f startup -2 ob and his D3 is probably better than geras on block 7f -2 ob making the next come out in 9f and his D4 has good range 9f -6 ob.
Yeah the D4 isn't errons right. But I agree. I like his D4 though I can follow with B1 stagger/oh or F2 stagger/F24/F242 frame trap its pretty decent pushback his s3 is also pretty good after
It's weird...I main JC and his D4 is -6, like Shang's....but it feels so much faster. Shang's feels like -10. Is the framedata wrong or am I stupid?
Ill test it but tons of data is confirmed incorrect. The menu data is a joke but the box is more accurate but I feel some is wrong. Maybe Jonny isn't -6? But the D4 is testing as -6 about -5 max range (Shang)
The range is less on d+3 (and d+1) than most standard low pokes, including Scorpion's d+1.
Would you say low to high A tier? I'm starting to find hitbox issues vs females and many can punish his specials as I'm sure you know. But recently some players have been saying he is S tier and I'm not seeing it with his base matchups and teleports being a hard counter to his buttons and specials.
I agree. The best part of it is that his base kit seems extremely solid but not unfair to the point where it demands huge nerfs. Now if a third variation comes out with his Shake I can see him becoming pretty stupid lol.
I am not yet adequately informed to comment on Shang Tsung's specific tier position, but I can tell you why a lot of people think he is a strong character. Ground eruption controls the mid range game similarly to Geras's low sand trap and Scorpion's teleport. While each move is punishable on block and whiff, the risk versus reward is in your favor and this threat causes players to hold block, which allows you to play your game. Shang Tsung also has very good normal attacks as well as strings, consistent and easy combos that can be hit-confirmed from almost any move, and an x-factor in soul steal that temporarily gives you access to your opponent's best tools. Characters with superior krushing and fatal blows are particularly worth stealing as Shang Tsung is somewhat limited in these two departments.
I would say its worth it if you really know your opponent's moveset. Plus that damage boost makes them combos very tasty.
The only ways i know how to do that is by keep moving, blocking, and ummmmm thats it. Unless you know something else?
Thats tricky tho because once u hold block and your time is up, once you release block you go right back into Shang mode. It barely gives you enough time to do a single combo. Id rather just use amp to not worry so much about it and reap the benefits. Too much unnecessary thinking.
Hey! IMO normal/amp soul steal is somewhat matchup dependent.