Nice trip to the afterlife - Nappa general discussion thread

[BurdaA]

There’s a more mix heavy version. There’s reflect opportunities in noticeable places (other than vanish), so it’s easier to escape if you know how. But, it’s also easier to perform and mix from.

Manage to keep it up for 45 secs this time:

Spoiler: Easier version

And the mix is that any 5M after double saibahit can be 6M:

Spoiler: More shmix

If they block 6M, Saiba maintains pressure, 5H>vanish and continue. You can actually run the whole block string using 6H after every double saibahit:

Spoiler: 6H version

Notation is:
LLMMH214M(Vegeta covered), MMH(vanish), 2LH214M, [MMH(vanish), LLMMH214M] [repeat]

 

[BurdaA]

Realised I put this in general, but worth archiving here too

Nappa / Frieza (optional?) / Vegeta ToD combo:

MM.sparking.M(ZA2)H.214L, LLL.sd.MLH2H.236M.Lvl1, j.LLL(ZA1)2H.236S.Lvl1.(optimal dhc)

Think that’s it but I’m tired, any issues, let me know.

 

[BurdaA]

Also, useful against match start 5H spam. You know which android you are... tut tut.

Mix is intentionally 6H happy. Far more legit with other buttons.

 

[freerf245]

Pickin up Nappa with Broly and Vegeta

 

[BurdaA]

Pickin up Nappa with Broly and Vegeta

Nice, they’ve definitely got some good synergy. Not exactly what I wanted, but great fun.

Broly assist extends Nappa real easy midscreen which is nice. Corner’s possible too, but timing was tricky.

Couldn’t get anything specific for Broly using Nappa’s assist (besides converting from 236M). But I haven’t done exhaustive labbing.

Vegeta is a perfect choice to back them up. Broly’s lvl1 cancels into Vegeta’s for continuation (corner is way less strict).

It’s one of my loadouts for sure.

 

[Johnny Based Cage]

@BurdaA Vegeta and Kid’s assists would be the only ones in the game that lock down long enough to let you get saibamen out safely on block, right?

 

[BurdaA]

@BurdaA Vegeta and Kid’s assists would be the only ones in the game that lock down long enough to let you get saibamen out safely on block, right?

Correct. They actually both work on hit too, as well as block, but kBuu’s requires that the opponent remains grounded.

If Vegeta assist gets the nerf hammer at some point and Buu’s doesn’t, I’m definitely seeing if I can make Kid work.

 

[PandaManee]

Correct. They actually both work on hit too, as well as block, but kBuu’s requires that the opponent remains grounded.

If Vegeta assist gets the nerf hammer at some point and Buu’s doesn’t, I’m definitely seeing if I can make Kid work.

Yamcha works as well.

 

[PandaManee]

And i got a few more. I was really looking for some sparking burst 2h loops here.

 

[BurdaA]

Yamcha works as well.

Thought I tested Yamcha and couldn’t make it gapless. Maybe my timing was off tho.

I’ve been working on Nappa > KBuu > Vegeta. They’ve actually got pretty nuts synergy.

Spoiler: 9224 KBuu assist 2 saiba Vegeta DHC

Spoiler: 9612 Vegeta/KBuu assist+DHC

Spoiler: Corner combo 6170 1bar/KBuu/2saiba

Spoiler: Corner combo 9224 6bar/KBuu/2saiba

Spoiler: Midscreen saiba combo 8798 7bar/KBuu/1saiba

Don’t know how much is known already (and def not optimised, just messing around really), but this teams actually insane fun. Buu is fucking legit too.

Any q’s let me know!

 

[BurdaA]

Think I’ve found a corner restand with guaranteed mix using KBuu/saiba. Can anyone help me test the legitimacy of this?

Best part is, if you mistime it ever so slightly, allowing a tech, only delayed getup (or block/guess/react) seems to work. Everything else seems to bluebeat.... not sure if I’m testing wrong tho.

 

[BurdaA]

@BurdaA Vegeta and Kid’s assists would be the only ones in the game that lock down long enough to let you get saibamen out safely on block, right?

Yamcha works as well.

My bad, just realised the question was safely, not with guaranteed continuation. My misunderstanding. Yeah yamcha’ll work, probably goku beam too.

 

[Johnny Based Cage]

My bad, just realised the question was safely, not with guaranteed continuation. My misunderstanding. Yeah yamcha’ll work, probably goku beam too.

Ah ok, that’s still super good to know though and puts Yamcha at least a tier below any assists that do allow continuation. Fuck I wish I had more time to get into this game lol.

 

[BurdaA]

Ah ok, that’s still super good to know though and puts Yamcha at least a tier below any assists that do allow continuation. Fuck I wish I had more time to get into this game lol.

Yeah just tested again and they’re pretty much neutral on block with well placed beam/Yamcha, maybe slightly plus, but with pushback no follow up pressure is guaranteed.

 

[BurdaA]

Nappa has a 2 man corner tod with Yamcha...

In my team’s case, I could’ve used base Vegeta as; last assist, or; lvl1 (dhc into Yamcha lvl3), or; lvl3 (after Yamcha’s lvl1). They’ll all tod, and look better, but I wanted to show it can be done with just 2 chars.

 

[Johnny Based Cage]

Nappa has a 2 man corner tod with Yamcha...

In my team’s case, I could’ve used base Vegeta as; last assist, or; lvl1 (dhc into Yamcha lvl3), or; lvl3 (after Yamcha’s lvl1). They’ll all tod, and look better, but I wanted to show it can be done with just 2 chars.

Sick! Yamcha’s assist lets him get a saibaman out safely on block too, just not continue pressure after still, right?

 

[BurdaA]

Sick! Yamcha’s assist lets him get a saibaman out safely on block too, just not continue pressure after still, right?

Correct happy times. I’d say it’s neutral or thereabouts when gapless.

They nerfed his saiba block pressure anyway so continuation isn’t such a deal breaker for me anymore. Weaker lockdown now but way better mix, and saiba help enforce/convert from the mix.

 

[BurdaA]

Oh also, if you really feel like it, you can spend another bar for more unnecessary damage. Dhc into vegeta before Yamcha lvl1.

If you do that, it nearly (97ish) tod’s off jH or 5L starters, but you gotta drop the first 2M

 

[neveradestroyer]

@BurdaA Senpai. show me your ways please. I've trying to make the perfect synergy team. with Napa.Android 21 and the new improved Teen Gohan.
I've still ways to go to improve my Napa tough.

 

[BurdaA]

@BurdaA Senpai. show me your ways please. I've trying to make the perfect synergy team. with Napa.Android 21 and the new improved Teen Gohan.
I've still ways to go to improve my Napa tough.

What you want to know m’dude? Kinda wrecked but happy to help...

His new meta imo will be how to use saiba to force them to to block iad/non-iad mixup. Meterless is likely doable, but cost is workable.

 

[BurdaA]

@BurdaA Senpai. show me your ways please. I've trying to make the perfect synergy team. with Napa.Android 21 and the new improved Teen Gohan.
I've still ways to go to improve my Napa tough.

Morning. The world is sober and grey now.

One thing I forgot to mention. Pretty sure TGohans assist fills the gap between jH and jS2H in the corner. Possibly midscreen now too. Nappa gets good damage or saiba setup if you can land j2H in your combo. A simple example being MMH.sd.MLL.jc.LLL(TGohan).S.2H.236M.Lvl1

 

[BurdaA]

@neveradestroyer

Put in a little work with your Nappa setup.

Spoiler: Both chars can connect j2H

Spoiler: Unfinished swag concepts

Nothing optimised/complete, but possible food for thought

 

[neveradestroyer]

Thanks a lot
@BurdaA
.
I will add these on my setups. I appreciate the time You dedicated in showing me these.

 

[BurdaA]

Thanks a lot
@BurdaA
.
I will add these on my setups. I appreciate the time You dedicated in showing me these.

Another little something for ya.

Spoiler: Oh no he di’n’t...

 

[neveradestroyer]

It was nice. This will work on this little mid to low tier team to work a little better.
Thanks a lot again
@BurdaA .