Nice trip to the afterlife - Nappa general discussion thread

[BurdaA]

So, it’s been awhile [/staind] but a few updates:

1. Gotenks now gives midscreen blockstring saiba summon, combined with 214S(1st hit)vanish gives complete saiba block mind game like KBuu. Pretty much makes Gotenks a must have for Nappa

2. Testing continues to see if Yamcha gives same as Gotenks above (cuz Yamcha>Gotenks solving for imo=fact)

3. Posted this in main thread but wanted to catalogue here; double vanish saiba summon midscreen swag feat Yamcha:

 

[BurdaA]

Re point 1 above... take this shmix....

214S is best all round option post vanish, but once conditioned any shmix will do. Jump forward is opponents best option. 214S sequence otherwise beats/interrupts backdash, superdash, vanish, neutral/back-jump, dp, some lvl3 (Vegito/aGohan, basically non-cinematic/teleports etc.). Reflect (cancelled) sometimes works to a degree, but Saiba and 5H are both coming for you during cancel/recovery...

Give it a try! Other than the jump forward (which becomes a mind game if the opponent knows) what are the options post vanish? Blocking is definitely to be avoided, given the approaching saiba-mix, post conditioning.

Sorry if known (v possible as KBuu has presumably had this all along).

Edit going straight for 214S after Gotenks (no LL) is even tighter on options like dp, aGohan gets hit regardless of timing (albeit sometimes in late recovery, still punishable):

 

[BurdaA]

Last thing, all of the above is on block; on hit, you can easily confirm into swag like this:

 

[BurdaA]

Suspect nobody reads this thread but can’t help myself lol.

Found a nasty midscreen saiba-restand-reset, off 2M with decent bar it’s one mix into death.

Low mix

Overhead

DR works too.

 

[BurdaA]

Also 214S is great for catching guard-cancels, and allows for instant solo SnapBack.

 

[BurdaA]

One more... midscreen restand with guaranteed saiba oki.