Nice trip to the afterlife - Nappa general discussion thread

Discussion in 'Nappa' started by BurdaA, Jan 29, 2018.

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  1. BurdaA

    BurdaA Wondercat

    The place to discuss all things about the noble former general of the Saiyan army.

    As a start, pretty sure he’s taking point in my team (Vegeta mid, A.Gohan anchor). He seems like hella fun, and plenty of room for creativity.

    So far I’ve been messing with assist combos and have come up with these. Apologies if much of this is used/known by others already, I just discovered these in isolation, and wanted to share. Also aware they probably aren’t optimal, I’m learning 3v3 and anime as I go.

    Combo 1
    Most viable as its 1 bar (2 assists) 5655 dmg and summons a saibaman at the end


    Combo 2
    Same deal but with expensive dami (7106) and no saibaman


    Combo 3
    Different assist combo 2 bars (net) and adds install to A.Gohan (6019 dmg)


    Ask if notations are needed, it’s getting late now or I’d have added them. :)
     
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  2. BurdaA

    BurdaA Wondercat

    :( guessing Nappa players are a rare bunch.

    Saw someone (probably @TrulyAmiracle, sorry to tag, but would love any input, been super helpful so far :)) mention in the main thread that if you land you regain jump cancels. Added this to the end (with a no mix up quick reset). Can anyone think of a way of landing big dami after the second set of jump cancels?

     
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  3. BurdaA

    BurdaA Wondercat

    Omfg! Just found out you can cancel out of the aerial 2H (before it connects) with another 2H then go into other aerial normals.

    Edit,You can even do it over and over lol
     
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    Last edited: Feb 2, 2018
  4. JBeezYBabY

    JBeezYBabY Mr. Righteous

    Nappa is strong as fuck in this game! I saw a restand combo he did where he laned 2 level 1 SUPERS in succession by simply timing a Vegeta assist after the first super hit. FUCKING DAMAGE!
     
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  5. JBeezYBabY

    JBeezYBabY Mr. Righteous

    EDIT *Landed (I dunno why the last post wont let me edit)
     
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  6. TrulyAmiracle

    TrulyAmiracle Bane bombs & Vine drills & Stardust
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    I think that's the tech buffer kicking in (too many hits), you could try to vanish then do the j.2H into ender. I haven't messed with Nappa outside of combo challenges so I'm not sure lol.
     
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  7. BurdaA

    BurdaA Wondercat

    I do something similar in the second combo above. So much fun. Level1 super, vegeta assist, 5H level3 super. Loving the dami Nappa brings, his corner game just got a lot scarier for me now I know about the cancels...
     
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  8. BurdaA

    BurdaA Wondercat

    Thanks will try vanish, timing’s gonna be harsh....
     
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  9. JBeezYBabY

    JBeezYBabY Mr. Righteous

    Oh i know about his corner game. I got fucked in the ass with it yesterday online lol
     
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  10. BurdaA

    BurdaA Wondercat

    (From other thread)

    I’m still working on saibaman strats myself. They work raw mostly (when not abused), but people will soon learn to punish that.

    I also like using assists for cover. Other than that I sacrifice dami at combo end for saibaman setup.
     
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  11. BurdaA

    BurdaA Wondercat

    Finally got a chance to record a variant with the air cancel reset, not sure how legit it is, but likely to catch some people, you can also air dash backwards instead after cancelling the air dive.

    Gonna try adding vanish to extend instead now...
     
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  12. BurdaA

    BurdaA Wondercat

    You can land a vanish after the last LLL, but can’t get anything from it :( had a feeling that’d be the case, but nvm. The cancel variant seems strong.
     
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  13. EntropicByDesign

    EntropicByDesign Confused and afraid.

    Glad to see people exploring him. I think he's awesome and love the cabbage mechanic with the little guys.

    He's one of the characters Im sad I can't play but I just don't have the room for him.
     
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  14. BurdaA

    BurdaA Wondercat

    Working on assist setups at the moment, but definitely gonna see if I can get saibamen out mid combo next. Had a quick go and it seemed tricky. Got some thoughts for next time I try though.

    Actually finding it quite hard to leave the lab... Nappa’s definitely got some fun/scary dirt. Will add some more vids soon, working on reset options.


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  15. BurdaA

    BurdaA Wondercat

    Ok I’ve been working on utilising the dive cancel (FYI you can just hold 2H in the air) and found something good I think. Side switches from corner and safe (I think) resets into corner pressure. 2 bars gross, but builds one (when factoring additional guaranteed chip).

    Messing with the timing of 2nd trait and cancel creates multiple mix opportunities.

    Couple of examples:


    Or let the dive rock and cover it.


    @Tony at Home @JBeezYBabY any others? or tell me “get f****d scrub! I stopped doing this day 1!”

    More to follow, either way :DOGE
     
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  16. In matches I rarely have 2 assists available by the time the combo has started. Almost always expending one for the pressure or mix necessary to open up an opponent.

    And given I'm still getting just those basics down for every assist pairing on my team I've decidedly not made an effort to get down 2-assist combos except for practice-swag

    In general the way I'm sneaking out Saibamen is anytime I'm offscreen which is actually quite alot given how much airtime is in the game. If my opponent wants to interrupt with a superdash they need to pray I'm not at the bottom of the screen waiting to smack them with a 2h.

    Mid combo Saibamen with Vegata assist:


    I'm kinda lukewarm on doing that now since it's essentially a 2bar combo for 4.5k dammy. So I'm betting big on getting a lotta value from the cabbage patch kids on that one.
     
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  17. BurdaA

    BurdaA Wondercat

    Yeah I know what you mean. I’ve used it a couple of times to escape corner, but you’re right I’ve often used an assist to get going. I’m out at the moment, but I’m going to work on optimising a less resource intensive version when I get back.

    ....

    Yeah I love that, ending with 2H cancelled into saibaman pretty much allows you to plant 2 once they respect the 2H as well.
     
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  18. BurdaA

    BurdaA Wondercat

    Re leaving swag until later – I go straight for full swag, and learn the constituent basic parts along the way anyways, but each their own :)

    I’m ass tho, just love some swag.
     
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  19. BurdaA

    BurdaA Wondercat

    Also...
    Lol
    [/jk]
     
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  20. BurdaA

    BurdaA Wondercat

    Been working on less resource intensive corner resets and put these together. Full lifebar shmix where Vegeta is used to cover opening and Piccolo can have been used recently:

    Again, not sure how legit the whole thing is... but looks cool :)
     
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  21. So is it coimcidence that alot of others playing Nappa bring Piccolo or is this a legit good pairing?
     
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  22. BurdaA

    BurdaA Wondercat

    He seems like a legit good match to me because his assist provides great oki and Nappa’s already a threat there, and the orb shuts down attempts to interrupt his setups. Offers great combo extension in the corner too. Just my initial impressions.
     
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  23. BurdaA

    BurdaA Wondercat

    Ok, found a bit more corner swag/tech/setups using saibamen summoned mid combo:

    Big dami combo:
    1 bar, vegeta assist 6262 dmg. L Saibaman connects with dp and grab after lvl 1 super


    Setup combo:
    0 bar, vegeta + beam assist 5547 dmg. L Saibaman connects w dp an grab afterbeam assist > 5H, which is cancelled into M Saibaman before continuing into high/low setup


    They both have knockdown option mind games, but the second one could be scary af on oki, as the Saibaman pins them down and puts a low* in with your airborne options.

    *Edit - not a low
     
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  24. BurdaA

    BurdaA Wondercat

    I’m so close to a 3 saibaman (1 for oki) corner combo I can taste it.... potentially still meterless.
     
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  25. BurdaA

    BurdaA Wondercat

    Gotta sleep, but getting close to triple saiba. Decided to call it a day when the second saibaman grab missed :( uploading first go as wip in case anyone feels like giving it a go. Still got a few more avenues to explore too.
     
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