Sub-Zero Pre-Release General Discussion

[Zerodegreez]

I'm sure the clone will give him a decent corner game but that can't be ALL he has Damage wise. The trait will run out so getting out won't be as hard as MKX and I'm pretty sure I haven't seen a Shatter yet.

I'm really hoping he has a better neutral and solid damage mid screen otherwise he'll just have to be a secondary...anyway find out tomorrow.

 

[Cobainevermind87]

I'm sure the clone will give him a decent corner game but that can't be ALL he has Damage wise. The trait will run out so getting out won't be as hard as MKX and I'm pretty sure I haven't seen a Shatter yet.

I'm really hoping he has a better neutral and solid damage mid screen otherwise he'll just have to be a secondary...anyway find out tomorrow.

Agreed. Take into account how long the maps are, I think he's going to have to work pretty hard to get someone cornered. It'd be nice if he had tools to be able to make a living at midscreen as well.

 

[Lokheit]

Judging by Ed's short interview and how he speaks about Sub-Zero's character power, I think the klone slide and air klone kick will be gear moves. He just speaks about using the klone and meterburning for the second one, no mention on the other klone moves.

 

[Jhonnykiller45]

Judging by Ed's short interview and how he speaks about Sub-Zero's character power, I think the klone slide and air klone kick will be gear moves. He just speaks about using the klone and meterburning for the second one, no mention on the other klone moves.

We'll find out today.

 

[neveradestroyer]

Grandmaster and Cryomancer together as one. This is the new Sub Zero.

 

[Lokheit]

Meterless Iceball doesn't freeze (high damage though) and trait is just klone but can be done on air (and every klone can be thrown).

And that throw would make for a really good brutality lol.

Also Command Grab knock downs and you can meterburn for a freeze (funny enough, I had an idea like this for future versions of Cryo in MK11 so cool to see it!).

 

[CrazyFingers]

It looks like he's got some better buttons (barring exact frame data) he's got some plus frames, he's got mix. I'm liking how he's looking.

 

[exisTenz]

111 ends with an OH now
d2 seems faster
Normal slide changes sides
His new string is 33 and looks like a good mid attack
Command grab knocks down and MB one freezes
MB Burst is the shoulder move and is safe on block
MB Air Hammer looks different from the trailer, it pushes the opponent away and is safe on block

I'm kinda sad clone slide and dive kick are gear but oh well

 

[chores]

meterless iceball doesnt freeze wtf next ur gonna tell me scorpions meterless spear doesnt grant a combo

 

[DoingMahThing]

And that throw would make for a really good brutality lol.

I'm glad I'm not the only one who thought this lol

 

[1man3letters]

1 day 1st thing, recording batman j2 vs that d2

was expected his normal iceball doesnt freeze like with scorps spear,
shae his trait isnt a multi use like supergirl and is a one and done into recharge
hammer was diff fro trailer but it was hitting mid on way up instead overhead thats odd for a special no?
new slide and 112 look nice
new shatter mb move thing looks cool aswell, (wonder can he do shatter combos?)

cant wait for july 11th to get a gander at his frame data

 

[exisTenz]

Yeah I'm wondering if he can still do shatter combos from MKX. He also doesn't seem to have any launching strings unless in the corner.

 

[thlityoursloat]

The cool down on the clone... oh man, the game's ruined. That's it.
According to the devs' wording, the command grab might also be a mid.

 

[neveradestroyer]

Mid tier at best. Calling it.

 

[DarksydeDash]

I really like how we can use slide or the cmd grab as enders to switch sides or not.

MB burst being plus on block and having a command throw is seriously good. I doubt he has his old tick throws back but if they respect the plus frames, we can get more using a F3.

I assume his j3 is a jump kick but I'm hoping we can cancel into clone while airborne.

Sucks we don't know if the overall does chip damage.

 

[Lokheit]

Full Stream Breakdown (we now know the full button mapping except for the exact button of the end hit of a couple of strings):

https://testyourmight.com/threads/full-sub-zero-stream-break-down-all-buttons-and-additional-info.64853/

 

[SPECTRELIGHT]

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[neveradestroyer]

Unbreakable nick name was Unwinnable since You don't win anything with him. And Cryomancer became CrapOmancer last patch (damage nerf--lost of armour--worse strings). I agree wiht everything else.

 

[SPECTRELIGHT]

Unbreakable nick name was Unwinnable since You don't win anything with him. And Cryomancer became CrapOmancer last patch (damage nerf--lost of armour--worse strings). I agree wiht everything else.

Lol. It's all hood. I'm messing with words.
Btw, just because you main SZ, don't be so negative. J/k lmao

 

[wsj515]

Unbreakable nick name was Unwinnable since You don't win anything with him. And Cryomancer became CrapOmancer last patch (damage nerf--lost of armour--worse strings). I agree wiht everything else.

Unbreakable was great. No one respected f4 aura's plus frames, giving you a free b12 into 36% with insane corner carry, into 50/50 town in the corner.

 

[SaSSolino]

Scrub Zero looks pretty fun

 

[neveradestroyer]

Unbreakable was great. No one respected f4 aura's plus frames, giving you a free b12 into 36% with insane corner carry, into 50/50 town in the corner.

Nobody won shit with Him. The real top tiers were on his way. He was just bufffed to mid tier (He's a worse version of Crystaline Tremor). Also. Pffft. Waste 1 bar of meter on an unsafe 50/50. f4+aura was only plus 2 with gap. it was His only meterless frame trap on a character with heavy dependence on meter. He was born unwinnable and it died unwinnable even after the buffs.

 

[wsj515]

Nobody won shit with Him. The real top tiers were on his way. He was just bufffed to mid tier (He's a worse version of Crystaline Tremor). Also. Pffft. Waste 1 bar of meter on an unsafe 50/50. f4+aura was only plus 2 with gap. it was His only meterless frame trap on a character with heavy dependence on meter. He was born unwinnable and it died unwinnable even after the buffs.

Unwinnable for you maybe. He wasn't top tier but he was very fun. He required a lot of conditioning but it worked, maybe you just couldn't get him to work without an auto-footsies tool like ice clone.

 

[thlityoursloat]

Unwinnable for you maybe. He wasn't top tier but he was very fun. He required a lot of conditioning but it worked, maybe you just couldn't get him to work without an auto-footsies tool like ice clone.

No other community has a bigger entitlement complex than the Sub Zero one. I bet you week 1 there's going to be complaints about poor footsies and MUs like deadshot.

 

[SPECTRELIGHT]

Thanks for making a creative thread for EVERYONE into an MKX thread for crying over Sub Zero variations. Lol.
J/k
Mods say it wasn't productive. Pardon me for referencing SZ in order to let everyone know about Free Slurpees.