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YOU KNOW IT'S TRUE WIGY. If F1 got a better hitbox he'd be easy contender for top 10 at least.
YOU KNOW IT'S TRUE WIGY. If F1 got a better hitbox he'd be easy contender for top 10 at least.
Don't know if it's universal but Kenshi couldnt punish it for a full combo standing up but if he crouched blocked it Sektor would end up on the other side of him and be closer to Kenshi. Allowing him to punish.Can't only a few characters punish meterburned dash?
funny though warlock who is a bottom 5 character in the game beats sektor 6-4 lolTo anyone who is saying Sektor is overhyped. Instead of just going "Nah brah he's overhyped" give me reasons please?
Dink stahp. He's not bottom 5. You're just understandably salty about how his armor isn't nearly as good as it used to befunny though warlock who is a bottom 5 character in the game beats sektor 6-4 lol
hes 100% bottom 5. If Pretty Lady is higher than him hes shitDink stahp. He's not bottom 5. You're just understandably salty about how his armor isn't nearly as good as it used to be
how is Quan's amazing core tools plus great counter zoning tools a bottom 5 character? Niche isn't the same as trash my man.hes 100% bottom 5. If Pretty Lady is higher than him hes shit
quan doesnt have amazing core tools. unsafe 50/50s(he actually has the most unsafe 50/50s), he cant really stagger, no plus frames on block. hes a counter zoner, which is weird because his up close tools suck too much to make it worth ithow is Quan's amazing core tools plus great counter zoning tools a bottom 5 character? Niche isn't the same as trash my man.
i think he'd be super solid but not a top 10 contenderYOU KNOW IT'S TRUE WIGY. If F1 got a better hitbox he'd be easy contender for top 10 at least.
You can make it fly past you with cages d4.That stupid God damn tracking shot has better tracking than anything else in the game.
Got a move that has shitty tracking? It's because all of the good tracking was put into that stupid shot. Everything else was told to piss off.
He has D3 which is one of the better pokes in the game, he has good zoning tools, great ways to control space with B1/B2, he has delaying runes on block to make them plus (yes there's a gap but honestly how often have you seen people actually abuse it?) and make his 50/50's safe (he also has EX Skull for this in the corner) Instant NJP is godlike.quan doesnt have amazing core tools. unsafe 50/50s(he actually has the most unsafe 50/50s), he cant really stagger, no plus frames on block. hes a counter zoner, which is weird because his up close tools suck too much to make it worth it
OmgYou have an overhead and low starter that are both under 20 frame startup so it's more guessing than reaction to blocking it. So... that's a plus lol. I don't play against Quan much so I wanna hear a little more info on those unsafe 50/50's. I know b32 and b324(?) Is like -14 or something but I wanna know the others.
Yessssss just one more patchhe is literally one change away from that.
I agree, but it's so much harder to make variation lists.I also don't think it's fair to count Triborgs variations as separate characters and not the rest!
Yeah yeah they're move set and play style is a lot different but so is Kitanas Mournful and Takedas Ronin but they ain't counted as separate characters.
Nah, sektor ex missile and cassie ex missile have best tracking by far.That stupid God damn tracking shot has better tracking than anything else in the game.
Got a move that has shitty tracking? It's because all of the good tracking was put into that stupid shot. Everything else was told to piss off.
The frame data on regular EX dash and EX dash post teleport is not the same.-15 is for non-ex.
Agree. Actually, I think tier lists that don't separate variations are pretty much useless, or at least hide a lot of information.Good we on the same page so lol
We could make an argument for tier lists being done by for characters as a whole and not by variation ONLY if MKX allowed the winner to switch variation. That way one character that has versatile variations could counter all bad match ups.Agree. Actually, I think tier lists that don't separate variations are pretty much useless, or at least hide a lot of information.
Many variations in the game, of a same character, have completely different tools and gameplans and shouldn't be put together.
Hoping for a in-game variation switch (for a bar or two) for the next MK game, maybe replace the stand switch button.We could make an argument for tier lists being done by for characters as a whole and not by variation ONLY if MKX allowed the winner to switch variation. That way one character that has versatile variations could counter all bad match ups.
BUT since you can change your variation only when you lose why even take into consideration the character as a whole (with all 3 variations combined) if you can choose a completely different character to counter an unfavorable match up.
So what I am trying to say is this: switching a variation is essentially the same as switching a character in tournament settings. Nothing rewards a player maining 3 variations of one character over a player maining 3 completely different characters' variations. That means all the tier lists have to be done by variations (treated as separate characters of course) for MKX.
good luck balancing that!Hoping for a in-game variation switch (for a bar or two) for the next MK game, maybe replace the stand switch button.
You'd just switch to your zoning variation fullscreen etc.Hoping for a in-game variation switch (for a bar or two) for the next MK game, maybe replace the stand switch button.
the option select is doable with practice. but you have to be playing the match up a lot. Even then the cmd grab is a fucked up mix tool to add along to his 5050 game, even if his 5050 game is punishable for the most part. His 5050s arent even strong till you hit the corner, where b2 actually combos for significant damage. midscreen you can't break 25% and thats if you're at that mid range, from further its safer but you only get slide as a follow up, which totals like 16%. If you want damage with consistent follow up midscreen, you need to do it off a jump in, where it jails standing, but then you actually risk a decent punish. it being punishable isnt that bad, but it just leads to an inconsistent style of play. cryomancer just plays a lot more like gm now where his mix ups become a lot scarier in the corner. if you play him frame trap throw style using the buffed f1, its a lot more consistent, and you can play him more mid screen focused, but other characters do it better for less risk and more damage. His mix up tool set is just a really good come back mechanic.Ok I could try and explain the option select but I know I'd to a shitty job and make it too convoluted. The "why Cryomancer sub zero isn't top 5" thread explains the option select and I'm sure @Gilbagz or @Lokheit could explain it better than I could.
But anyhow tiers are based on matchups not tools and I don't see Cryo having that great of matchups. At least not good enough matchups to signify a top tier character. Imo Grandmaster loses to 10-12 (2 of them might be even) characters, Cryo has to be worse than that.
Why is Shinnok better than Jason or Smoke? And why is Mileena in the A-tier?Decided to do a tier list for this version of MKX. Enjoy.
*Top 5 is in Order*
1. Shinnok (Imposter)
2. Triborg (Smoke)
3. Jason (Relentless/ Unstoppable)
4. Jacqui Briggs (Full Auto)
5. Raiden (Displacer)
*Not in Order*
6. Ermac
7. Tanya
8. Scorpion
9. Mileena
10. Sub Zero