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imblackjames

Ive seen the leprechaun
Curious. Does his B1 still tick throw? Everytime i try it seems to whiff like crazy :( blocking or not. Maybe i'm just bad, and that's very well the case, since I am pretty bad at tick throws in general.
yea it should still tick Maybe it's a spacing thing
 

ando1184

Warrior
Curious. Does his B1 still tick throw? Everytime i try it seems to whiff like crazy :( blocking or not. Maybe i'm just bad, and that's very well the case, since I am pretty bad at tick throws in general.
It still tics but command throws have an issue where even if doing a tic setup, depending on how the character is during certain recovery frames, it can cause the command grab to whiff. I don't think it should function that way but it does and it happens all the time, whether it's post knockdown or after the opponent does a string or move to alter their frames or hitbox, it will just omit your tic throw attempt. I call BS.

 

LeftOverShark

Tick Throw Specialist
Curious. Does his B1 still tick throw? Everytime i try it seems to whiff like crazy :( blocking or not. Maybe i'm just bad, and that's very well the case, since I am pretty bad at tick throws in general.
B1 still ticks on block. you have to ex it for it to work on hit and sometimes ticks whiff on characters from certain ranges or characters with tiny hitboxes i.e Kano, scorpion, most of the female cast.
 

kantboy-2

Ripper
The parry inconsistencies and the throw whiffs are the two things that really bother me about this game.

Maybe it's because I main Commando. :rolleyes:

Standing 4 ticks would make that attack more useful for this variation.
 

Hara-Killer

Reverse Salt
Curious. Does his B1 still tick throw? Everytime i try it seems to whiff like crazy :( blocking or not. Maybe i'm just bad, and that's very well the case, since I am pretty bad at tick throws in general.
is thight but is there , B1 Thick works on block but is S+ difficult
 

Hara-Killer

Reverse Salt
It still tics but command throws have an issue where even if doing a tic setup, depending on how the character is during certain recovery frames, it can cause the command grab to whiff. I don't think it should function that way but it does and it happens all the time, whether it's post knockdown or after the opponent does a string or move to alter their frames or hitbox, it will just omit your tic throw attempt. I call BS.

Jason thicks fails too ?
 

ando1184

Warrior
Jason thicks fails too ?
To be honest I've never seen his command grab whiff like the rest. But Kotal, Kano, Jax, ft, and goro all have the whiff issue. Even regular throws I've seen whiffed at point blank at times too, and I'm talking about against crouch blocking opponents that aren't releasing block. Ever since that last patch command grabs and normal throws haven't felt the same? Is it just me that feels that way?
 

Hara-Killer

Reverse Salt
To be honest I've never seen his command grab whiff like the rest. But Kotal, Kano, Jax, ft, and goro all have the whiff issue. Even regular throws I've seen whiffed at point blank at times too, and I'm talking about against crouch blocking opponents that aren't releasing block. Ever since that last patch command grabs and normal throws haven't felt the same? Is it just me that feels that way?

Hope they fix tha BS in next Balance (Robie willians) patch ( Adams) haha
 

thlityoursloat

kick kick
Did anyone else notice that his grabs were nerfed?
The supplex used to be 10f, now it's 11. Rib sex, I recall was also sub -40 on whiff, now it's over 40.
 

Solomon Gorondy

Should Goro be top 5?
@ando1184
Damn you make great videos. This command throw glitch deserves it's own thread on the front page.
It still tics but command throws have an issue where even if doing a tic setup, depending on how the character is during certain recovery frames, it can cause the command grab to whiff. I don't think it should function that way but it does and it happens all the time, whether it's post knockdown or after the opponent does a string or move to alter their frames or hitbox, it will just omit your tic throw attempt. I call BS.

On a side note; Goro's command throw is so bad. Does anyone think that Commando's Ribcracker should be so much better than Goro's Shokan Grab?
 

kantboy-2

Ripper
Goro has more reach and I really don't know if he has better recovery if both do a whiff command grab.

Since it's just a balance patch and we'll probably won't get any new animations for characters, I just want them to give Commando a tick off standing 4 (which would make that move more useful) and Cyber's B2, 3 into 1+3 combo.

If they fix the parries and the throw whiffs, we're good to go.
 

Jupe

Mortal
Goro has more reach and I really don't know if he has better recovery if both do a whiff command grab.

Since it's just a balance patch and we'll probably won't get any new animations for characters, I just want them to give Commando a tick off standing 4 (which would make that move more useful) and Cyber's B2, 3 into 1+3 combo.

If they fix the parries and the throw whiffs, we're good to go.
I don't get why s4 tick would help commando's game. That move is just horrible in neutral and even if it had a tick throw, it's still too slow and hits high.
 

kantboy-2

Ripper
You just said why; it's slow and hits high. No one expects you to use it, until you do and now you have them thinking; 'will they try that again?'

It gives Commando another option, which the other two variations don't have; I don't want it to be option 1 every time, but I want the option.
 

LaidbackOne

Scrubby nice guy
You just said why; it's slow and hits high. No one expects you to use it, until you do and now you have them thinking; 'will they try that again?'

It gives Commando another option, which the other two variations don't have; I don't want it to be option 1 every time, but I want the option.
The thing is its a terrible option.
 

CrazyFingers

The Power of Lame Compels You
The thing is its a terrible option.
You know what would be a better tick throw? S2. Give him S2 tick throw he has a fantastic stagger string now with great range and decent speed, while B1 tick is good, the range can be...nubby. S22 is commando specific, give me some reasons to use it m8.
 

Solomon Gorondy

Should Goro be top 5?
So, would it be awful if they made s4 a bit faster and added a tick throw to it?
It's definitely an improvement but you only get so much before Paulo stops giving a shit about the character. I'd rather have IA Kano Ball be harder to punish. It'd improve both Cyber and Commando while Cutthroat wouldn't really care because his B1 supersedes IAKano Ball as an overhead mix-up.
 

Youphemism

Gunslinger since pre patch (sh/out to The Farmer)
Commando doesn't need more ticks, getting B1 as a tick was a great addition for him (although they somehow managed to find a way to do it that nerfed Cybernetic). The main problem is power creep in that Sun God Kotal is just a better version of Commando in most areas.
 

CrazyFingers

The Power of Lame Compels You
Commando doesn't need more ticks, getting B1 as a tick was a great addition for him (although they somehow managed to find a way to do it that nerfed Cybernetic). The main problem is power creep in that Sun God Kotal is just a better version of Commando in most areas.
How would you fix him? I've heard fixing parries would help him a lot. I don't play Commando but I do like grapplers.