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Crusty

Retired forever; don’t ask for games.
Yea that's what I meant, since @Crusty Clown was saying giving him a faster D1 would result in a frame trap.

Why not just make F1,2,1 0 on block and give a 6F D1? Basically right now after F1,2,1 on block you get a 7f D1 check by being +2 on block anyway. Everything else can still be low poked so its not that big a deal going from +2 to 0.
Don't get me wrong, I want my character to get buffed but everything I've been reading so far is saying to improve his offense.

Why doesn't anyone come up with a reason to make Metallic playable such as giving a better up rock in lava stance?

I don't want anything fubar such as making his b1 an overhead or giving him a faster d1. We don't want another Cutthroat Kano, or Piercing Mileena.

Tremor never lost his offense from the nerfs, just his dependency on his up rock is limited. Needless to say, it was overnormalized.
 

Tweedy

Noob
Tremor's D1 is hella long, barely minus on block. It almost feels like a 9 frame mid that doesn't lead into a combo, just grants hit advantage.

When you land it, they're jailed into F1 or S2. Would you guys really prefer if they gave Tremor a 6 or 7 frame D1 with less hit advantage and shorter range, more minus frames?

If you're expecting a 6 or 7 frame D1 with that much range and at only -3 then wtf lol.

Edit: His D3 should be made 7 or 8 frames imo, and be made more minus.
 

Crusty

Retired forever; don’t ask for games.
Tremor's D1 is hella long, barely minus on block. It almost feels like a 9 frame mid that doesn't lead into a combo, just grants hit advantage.

When you land it, they're jailed into F1 or S2. Would you guys really prefer if they gave Tremor a 6 or 7 frame D1 with less hit advantage and shorter range, more minus frames?

If you're expecting a 6 or 7 frame D1 with that much range and at only -3 then wtf lol.

Edit: His D3 should be made 7 or 8 frames imo, and be made more minus.
Seconded, since no one really uses it.
 

God Confirm

We're all from Earthrealm. If not, cool pic brah.
@OmGxBdON , do not let anyone lecture you about Tremor, much less about Aftershock. I genuinely thought you were a scrub, but your Aftershock is the best I have ever fought. You most definitely understand how the character functions, even in Crystalline.

By the way, the likelihood is that the vast majority of the character changes are already in place so these suggestions are worthless. However, it is interesting to note that Bo Rai Cho's OTG has little to no scaling (10%) while every other characters' does.
I have a lot of respect for the way you are willing to be humble and honest about the fact that maybe you weren't quite right about Aftershock. And I'll also take an apology from you for saying "anybody who think AS is good doesn't understand the character" with extra salt, thanks
 
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OmGxBdON

I'm going to make Fate top ten
Went into the exile tournament and I got knocked into losers by a demo player. Then lost to yungmonster. Got really salty cuz whenever I play him I always choke and end up losing a round after he's basically at a meaty death :/. Anyways I don't really have much experience against top tiers, so I was kinda going into the tournament saying the first demo or millena I ran into I would lose. I did make a few mistakes tho. I did a rolling stone on knock down when demo was next to me when I meant to do ex up punch which woulda won me that round. Oh the salt. I shoulda switched stages too because the demo player would use an interact able to get in on me, but that was my fault.
 

dennycascade

UPR_ghastem
If they are trying to poke after f121 that means that they want to get rock punched in the face or even overhead rock punched. If they do anything that isn't a poke or armor after f121 you can tag them with another f1. Tremor can cancel pretty much anything he does and be safe. Idk how you could say he doesn't have pressure. His backdash also covers a lot of space to help him escape if you don't like your options and would rather space/zone.
That mindgame doesn't really exist on a high level, only works if your opponent is just sitting there mashing d1. The db2 jails, so the d1 never comes out and they can just press d1 and hold block for a short time. I have more success with a slightly delayed db1 which beats their poke on startup.
 

dennycascade

UPR_ghastem
Don't get me wrong, I want my character to get buffed but everything I've been reading so far is saying to improve his offense.

Why doesn't anyone come up with a reason to make Metallic playable such as giving a better up rock in lava stance?

I don't want anything fubar such as making his b1 an overhead or giving him a faster d1. We don't want another Cutthroat Kano, or Piercing Mileena.

Tremor never lost his offense from the nerfs, just his dependency on his up rock is limited. Needless to say, it was overnormalized.
I did suggest that metallic gets a better magma drop and no, giving him a decent poke will not turn him into fucking cutthroat kano, ya maniac
 

InFlames

dead
Make it so in the corner b32 db1 u delayed and 21d4 db1u delayed combo on hit with female hit boxes too so fucking stupid
that actually combos in crystalline but not aftershock, its like every good thing that tremor has is done better in crystalline

also u guys are crazy if you want a 6f d1, ive mentioned it before but a 7f d3 is the best way to do it since the startup is garbage buns (11f, only 1f faster than d4 ) with mediocre range and slightly less hit adv than d1 which makes it hard to hitconfirm. making it faster would give it a purpose and fix tremors problem against good fast pokes.
 

OmGxBdON

I'm going to make Fate top ten
that actually combos in crystalline but not aftershock, its like every good thing that tremor has is done better in crystalline

also u guys are crazy if you want a 6f d1, ive mentioned it before but a 7f d3 is the best way to do it since the startup is garbage buns (11f, only 1f faster than d4 ) with mediocre range and slightly less hit adv than d1 which makes it hard to hitconfirm. making it faster would give it a purpose and fix tremors problem against good fast pokes.
Wow that's pretty dumb. Why give it only to crystalline. 6f poke really won't do much Except for his shatter cancels. Shhhhhhhhhh. But yeah I would be fine with a 7f d3. Still staying with AS despite that. I should really pick it up just for dumb MUs tho.
 
Maaaan idk what i want for this character. Maybe if they gave us back old up rock and made it a mid that would help alot, maybe make it less advantegous on hit so its harder to trade to balance out having it have good tracking again and being more plus. I wanna freaking neutral. Instead of only getting like 2-3 on the otg give us like 6-8 so it at least feels like im getting something for the meter. Honestly id pick him up again if they gave him back the old dmg of his otg
 

OmGxBdON

I'm going to make Fate top ten
Maaaan idk what i want for this character. Maybe if they gave us back old up rock and made it a mid that would help alot, maybe make it less advantegous on hit so its harder to trade to balance out having it have good tracking again and being more plus. I wanna freaking neutral. Instead of only getting like 2-3 on the otg give us like 6-8 so it at least feels like im getting something for the meter. Honestly id pick him up again if they gave him back the old dmg of his otg
Tremor has a good nuetral, he's honestly fine. They really should buff the dmg on the otg tho. Also a better d3
 

Killer Xinok

"Online is your forte!" - A Wise Man, 2015
I'm curious about what are they planing for tremor on the next patch.. I've heard that crystalline will be nerfed.. does anyone has any rumor to share? But damn he is so underrated nowadays
 

OmGxBdON

I'm going to make Fate top ten
I'm curious about what are they planing for tremor on the next patch.. I've heard that crystalline will be nerfed.. does anyone has any rumor to share? But damn he is so underrated nowadays
Wat to his crystal shatter? He is pretty scary if you don't have an option to blow up the flex.
 

OmGxBdON

I'm going to make Fate top ten
Yeah you're right, I think his only bad matchups are mileena, smoke and sonya.
Idk about tht. I think Kano blows up the armor pretty fast. Lui Kang is still bad, ninjitsue scorpion. I don't think tremor has too much trouble with smoke. Cuz for one u don't have to worry about armor and if u wanna bait the faze u could always just do a d1 after your plus Or neutral strings and still be on top.
 

Killer Xinok

"Online is your forte!" - A Wise Man, 2015
Idk about tht. I think Kano blows up the armor pretty fast. Lui Kang is still bad, ninjitsue scorpion. I don't think tremor has too much trouble with smoke. Cuz for one u don't have to worry about armor and if u wanna bait the faze u could always just do a d1 after your plus Or neutral strings and still be on top.
Yeah but crystalline can punish kano's ex upball, that helps a lot. I struggle against smoke cause I'm too offensive. I do things like f121 ex bf4, then I expect to jail him with 21d4u4 after that, but he phases out in the gap between f121 and ex bf4 lol but that's my problem, I should bait him more
 

OmGxBdON

I'm going to make Fate top ten
Yeah but crystalline can punish kano's ex upball, that helps a lot. I struggle against smoke cause I'm too offensive. I do things like f121 ex bf4, then I expect to jail him with 21d4u4 after that, but he phases out in the gap between f121 and ex bf4 lol but that's my problem, I should bait him more
True if anybody reads the ex bf4 it's a punish tho