Sutter Pain
Your mothers main.
Can play a couple sets now I have to get ready for work though so I wont be able to play long.
edit: gonna have a quick smoke then we can play
Can play a couple sets now I have to get ready for work though so I wont be able to play long.
actually it was 2 resets
st.HK, f.HP (reset) cr.MP? (reset) Clothesline (reset) st.MP, st.MP, Flash Chop EX
damm what u think of it torn ?
resets are like children, just because you CAN have a lot of them really fast doesn't mean you should. Space them little bastards out a bit.
Well, it starts off good with the st.HK, f.HP (reset) part, but then you need a mixup or something at the cr.MP into clothesline part because they will probably just block the cr.MP and the clothesline and then punish you. See if you can turn that cr.MP into a st.HP into clothesline or something that combos at least so they have to guess between blocking and a command grab. I don't own Alex though, so you gotta do all that testing on your own.
There's no legit mixup to be had there. You're better off finishing the combo and taking your 400 damage and stun. You're sacrificing too much in the hopes that they won't block a mid on a slow reset with no cross up potential from outside of command grab range. Especially since his combos in that situation usually lead to him getting the meaty setup anyways.
For every ex divekick you anti-aired, you got hit by or blocked one. Not to mention all the times you blocked an air tatsu or ate a crossup tatsu or jump kick.
I punished 4 ex divekicks out of 6 , one I got by punished by might as well have been a jump in. What's with the projecting? You can't aa something so it's op? does a move have to be able to be countered 100% to be fair?
Look, there is no way you are going to convince me that + on block divekicks aren't dumb. As a general gameplay device, I just don't like them. I feel it's just too powerful to give characters air approach like that.
Ya they're good doesnt = op.
Agree completely. Its not the ex dive that makes Ken good. Its all the options he has, PLUS his divekick which makes you having to focus on that too. You can't just mindlessly spam it. I can AA it with Ibuki pretty consistently with her cr.HP, which is 12f of startup....
Saying Vega, Ibuki and Alex have plus on block divekicks is just BS. Cammy is top 5. Chun and Ken are top 5. I already said that they had to set up the divekick to make it effective. I already admitted that at some point during this discussion. So you kind of already won the argument but you don't know when to stop.
both of those characters being top 5 is debatable. You've got Ryu, Karin, Nash, chun, and Necalli that could easily be someone's top 5.
Yeah, it's debatable for sure. Let's not forget that Necalli has a divekick too. I think Cammy is still a bit underrated and underused in tournament.
Would love to but CC kicks me off the server sorry.
How do they not funnction in the same way? Ken's ex divekick and Alex's or Vega's or Ibuki's or Bison's both are air specials that alter alter there jump arc to move thmselves quickly and are harder to aa and they're all plus on block. please dont say its because they don't use to their foot to hit you. What's the BS besides they don't prove your point? Not to mention I forgot Sim and Rashid's divekick.
necallis divekick is mediocre at best. Cammy is good, but she doesn't have any serious dirt and having 900 hp is too dangerous in a game where characters can easily confirm into 500+ dmg when fully stocked. She's solid, but she's not overwhelming.
dont forget Mikas belly flop. The divekick of champions.
