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Guide - Kenshi ***UPDATED 8-16-16 *** Pig of the Hut's Kenshi MU thread

Pig Of The Hut

Day 0 Phenomenal Dr. Fate and Darkseid player
8-5-16
In conclusion: Kenshi is by far one of the worst designs in history of fighting games especially considering the sum of all parts (characters) around him. It's my feeling and study he is by far one of the worst characters in MKXL and his core problem is his extremely poor design and awful uneventful buffs.

If anyone wants to attempt to change my mind about these MU #s do it with video evidence and not theory crafting. This has been a work in progress for 17 months

I feel Kenshi is between 5th and 4th worst in the game. He's garbage. He's a fair character in a broke game. He's the guy at the bar getting into a fight w a wooden stick vs a bunch of guys w AK47s.

In comparison Sonic fox feels he is 8th worst

List of players who have tried to pick him up, find something good about him but gave up:

Saltface
Sonic
Djt
Scar
Ashenar
Blackula (quit because of Kenshi)
And more

Special note: you know a character is complete shit when not even Forever King will sandbag w him in a pivotal top8 match when he is down 0-2 and you know a character isn't top tier if king (to his credit) looks at a character and never uses him once.

If you main Kenshi then you're playing with a dumpster fire and should not attend tournaments because you'll end up wasting time off work, $400-500 in costs to be pool fodder in the current state of the game

Ways Kenshi can be viable at tournament:
-Madzin awaits an opponent in GF
-Tom awaits an opponent in GF
- a cyrax player has emerged from the ashes and awaits an opponent in GFs
-one of the many top Takeda players awaits you in GF

Only then is picking Kenshi a good idea if you have mastered him. If you have not you will get dedicated on and feel an ounce of my 17 months of pure agony and pain.

MU numbers
However I'm open to these number changing here and there w video evidence but I'm in no way interested how you do vs your training partner in some third world country, small American town, online clan battles, etc. show me best vs the best or don't consider arguing at all. Below is my current living Kenshi MU chart. Look at it while you can and cry if you must. Sorry this character absolutely is garbage.

Kenshi Balanced

Alien:

Acidic 3-7
Tarkatan 4-6
Konjurer 4-6

Leatherface:

Pretty Lady 4-6
Killer 4-6
Butcher 4-6

Jason:

Unstoppable 3-7
Slasher 5-5
Relentless 5-5

Predator:

Warrior 6-4
Hish-Qu-Ten 3-7
Hunter 4-6

Kung Lao:

Hat Trick 6-4
Tempest 5-5
Buzz Saw 5-5

Shinnok:

Necromancer 4-6
Imposter 3-7
Boneshaper 2-8

Jax:

Pumped Up 4-6
Heavy Weapons 4-6
Wresler 4-6

Kano:

Commando 5-5
Cybernatic 4-6
Cutt Throat 3-7

Sonya Blade:

Special Forces 4-6
Covert Ops 4-6
Demolition 3-7

Johnny Cage:

Fistacuffs 5-5
A-List 3-7
Stunt Double 3-7

Kenshi:

Balanced - X
Kenjutsu 4-6
Possessed 5-5

Erron Black:

Marksman 4-6
Gunslinger 4-6
Outlaw 4-6

Kitana:

Mournful 4-6
Royal Storm 5-5
Assassin 5-5

Liu Kang:

Dualist 5-5
Flame Fist 2-8
Dragon Fire 2-8

Scorpion:

Inferno 6-4
Ninjutsu 4-6
Hellfire 3-7

Ermac:

Spectral 4-6
Master of Souls 3-7
Mystic 2-8

Kotal Kahn:

Sun God 5-5
Blood God 4-6
War God 4-6

Sub-Zaro:

Grand Master 6-4
Cyromancer 6-4
Unbreakable 7-3

Reptile:

Noxious 4-6
Deceptive 4-6
Nimble 3-7

Mileena:

Ravenous 4-6
Ethereal 3-7
Piercing 3-7

Ferra-Torr:

Ruthless 4-6
Vicious 4-6
Lackey 4-6

Takeda:

Ronin 5-5
Shirai Ryu 5-5
Lasher 5-5

D'Vorah:

Brood Mother 4-6
Venomous 4-6
Swarm Queen 3-7

Cassie Cage:

Spec Ops 3-7
Hollywood 3-7
Brawler 3-7

Raiden:

Master of Storms 6-4
Displacer 5-5
Thunder God 5-5

Jackie Briggs:

Full-Auto 4-6
Shotgun 3-7
High-Tech 3-7

Quan Chi:

Sorcerer: 3-7
Warlock: 4-6
Summoner: 4-6

Kung Jin:

Bojutsu 4-6
Ancestral 5-5
Shaolin 3-7

Goro:

Tigrar Fury 6-4
Kuaten Warrior 6-4
Dragon Fangs 6-4

Tanya:

Pyromancer 4-6
Dragon Naginata 4-6
Kobu Jutsu 4-6

Tremor:

Crystalline 3-7
AfterShock 4-6
Metallic 5-5

Bo Rai Cho:

Dragon Breath 4-6
Drunken Master 5-5
Bartitsu 4-6

Triborg:

Smoke 4-6
Cyber Sub-Zero 5-5
Sektor 4-6
cyrax: 4-6

Kenshi Matchup chart:

Kenshi Possessed

Alien:

Acidic 3-7
Tarkatan 3-7
Konjurer 4-6

Leatherface:

Pretty Lady 4-6
Killer 4-6
Butcher 5-5

Jason:

Unstoppable 3-7
Slasher 5-5
Relentless 5-5

Predator:

Warrior 6-4
Hish-Qu-Ten 4-6
Hunter 4-6

Kung Lao:

Hat Trick 6-4
Tempest 6-4
Buzz Saw 6-4

Shinnok:

Necromancer 5-5
Imposter 3-7
Boneshaper 3-7

Jax:

Pumped Up 4-6
Heavy Weapons 4-6
Wresler 4-6

Kano:

Commando 6-4
Cybernatic 5-5
Cutt Throat 3-7

Sonya Blade:

Special Forces 4-6
Covert Ops 3-7
Demolition 3-7

Johnny Cage:

Fistacuffs 5-5
A-List 4-6
Stunt Double 3-7

Erron Black:

Marksman 5-5
Gunslinger 5-5
Outlaw 5-5

Kitana:

Mournful 5-5
Royal Storm 4-6
Assassin 4-6

Liu Kang:

Dualist 6-4
Flame Fist 3-7
Dragon Fire 3-7

Scorpion:

Inferno 6-4
Ninjutsu 5-5
Hellfire 4-6

Ermac:

Spectral 3-7
Master of Souls 4-6
Mystic 3-7

Kotal Kahn:

Sun God 5-5
Blood God 4-6
War God 5-5

Sub-Zaro:

Grand Master 5-5
Cyromancer 5-5
Unbreakable 6-4

Reptile:

Noxious 3-7
Deceptive 3-7
Nimble 3-7

Mileena:

Ravenous 4-6
Ethereal 3-7
Piercing 2-8

Ferra-Torr:

Ruthless 4-6
Vicious 4-6
Lackey 4-6

Takeda:

Ronin 5-5
Shirai Ryu 5-5
Lasher 5-5

D'Vorah:

Brood Mother 4-6
Venomous 4-6
Swarm Queen 3-7

Cassie Cage:

Spec Ops 4-6
Hollywood 4-6
Brawler 4-6

Raiden:

Master of Storms 6-4
Displacer 6-4
Thunder God 6-4

Jackie Briggs:

Full-Auto 3-7
Shotgun 3-7
High-Tech 3-7

Quan Chi:

Sorcerer: 5-5
Warlock: 5-5
Summoner: 5-5

Kung Jin:

Bojutsu 3-7
Ancestral 5-5
Shaolin 3-7

Goro:

Tigrar Fury 6-4
Kuaten Warrior 6-4
Dragon Fangs 6-4

Tanya:

Pyromancer 5-5
Dragon Naginata 4-6
Kobu Jutsu 4-6

Tremor:

Crystalline 3-7
AfterShock 4-6
Metallic 5-5

Bo Rai Cho:

Dragon Breath 4-6
Drunken Master 4-6
Bartitsu 4-6

Triborg:

Smoke 4-6
Cyber Sub-Zero 4-6
Sektor 4-6
cyrax: 5-5

Kenshi Kenjutsu

Alien:

Acidic 3-7
Tarkatan 4-6
Konjurer 4-6

Leatherface:

Pretty Lady 5-5
Killer 5-5
Butcher 5-5

Jason:

Unstoppable 3-7
Slasher 5-5
Relentless 4-6

Predator:

Warrior 6-4
Hish-Qu-Ten 4-6
Hunter 5-5

Kung Lao:

Hat Trick 6-4
Tempest 6-4
Buzz Saw 6-4

Shinnok:

Necromancer 4-6
Imposter 3-7
Boneshaper 3-7

Jax:

Pumped Up 4-6
Heavy Weapons 4-6
Wresler 4-6

Kano:

Commando 5-5
Cybernatic 5-5
Cutt Throat 3-7

Sonya Blade:

Special Forces 4-6
Covert Ops 5-5
Demolition 3-7

Johnny Cage:

Fistacuffs 6-4
A-List 4-6
Stunt Double 3-7

Kenshi:

Balanced 4-6
Kenjutsu
Possessed 5-5

Erron Black:

Marksman 5-5
Gunslinger 5-5
Outlaw 5-5

Kitana:

Mournful 5-5
Royal Storm 5-5
Assassin 5-5

Liu Kang:

Dualist 5-5
Flame Fist 3-7
Dragon Fire 3-7

Scorpion:

Inferno 6-4
Ninjutsu 4-6
Hellfire 4-6

Ermac:

Spectral 4-6
Master of Souls 4-6
Mystic 3-7

Kotal Kahn:

Sun God 5-5
Blood God 4-6
War God 5-5

Sub-Zaro:

Grand Master 5-5
Cyromancer 5-5
Unbreakable 6-4

Reptile:

Noxious 4-6
Deceptive 4-6
Nimble 3-7

Mileena:

Ravenous 4-6
Ethereal 3-7
Piercing 3-7

Ferra-Torr:

Ruthless 4-6
Vicious 4-6
Lackey 4-6

Takeda:

Ronin 5-5
Shirai Ryu 5-5
Lasher 5-5

D'Vorah:

Brood Mother 4-6
Venomous 4-6
Swarm Queen 3-7

Cassie Cage:

Spec Ops 3-7
Hollywood 4-6
Brawler 4-6

Raiden:

Master of Storms 6-4
Displacer 5-5
Thunder God 6-4

Jackie Briggs:

Full-Auto 4-6
Shotgun 3-7
High-Tech 3-7

Quan Chi:

Sorcerer: 4-6
Warlock: 5-5
Summoner: 6-4

Kung Jin:

Bojutsu 4-6
Ancestral 5-5
Shaolin 3-7

Goro:

Tigrar Fury 6-4
Kuaten Warrior 6-4
Dragon Fangs 6-4

Tanya:

Pyromancer 5-5
Dragon Naginata 4-6
Kobu Jutsu 5-5

Tremor:

Crystalline 3-7
AfterShock 4-6
Metallic 5-5

Bo Rai Cho:

Dragon Breath 4-6
Drunken Master 5-5
Bartitsu 4-6

Triborg:

Smoke 5-5
Cyber Sub-Zero 5-5
Sektor 5-5
cyrax: 6-4


Conclusion:

Best variation: Kenjutsu

However this question always baffles me. People will ask "pig what's the best variation for kenshi" the answer you see is not so easy. Here's real rap

Kenshi's three variations are like three women at a bar. They want you, they want nothing more than to talk with you and start a relationship with you. You might ask yourself which one is the best. Well here is the issue

Woman 1 has AIDS
Woman 2 has a contagious skin rot
Woman 3 is an active wanted serial killer

There isn't a good answer which to choose, just choose the lesser of three evils.

It's at this point in the post where I say if anyone ever doubts me again three days into a game when I say a character is a dumpster fire, please do not tell me to give it time. I've given 17 months to this vomit and have nothing to show for my efforts because of how crud he is. I rest my case

Enjoy MKXL everybody
 
Last edited:
8-5-16
In conclusion: Kenshi is by far one of the worst designs in history of fighting games especially considering the sum of all parts (characters) around him. It's my feeling and study he is by far one of the worst characters in MKXL and his core problem is his extremely poor design and awful uneventful buffs.

If anyone wants to attempt to change my mind about these MU #s do it with video evidence and not theory crafting. This has been a work in progress for 17 months

I feel Kenshi is between 5th and 4th worst in the game. He's garbage. He's a fair character in a broke game. He's the guy at the bar getting into a fight w a wooden stick vs a bunch of guys w AK47s.

In comparison Sonic fox feels he is 8th worst

List of players who have tried to pick him up, find something good about him but gave up:

Saltface
Sonic
Djt
Scar
Ashenar
Blackula (quit because of Kenshi)
And more

Special note: you know a character is complete shit when not even Forever King will sandbag w him in a pivotal top8 match when he is down 0-2 and you know a character isn't top tier if king (to his credit) looks at a character and never uses him once.

If you main Kenshi then you're playing with a dumpster fire and should not attend tournaments because you'll end up wasting time off work, $400-500 in costs to be pool fodder in the current state of the game

Ways Kenshi can be viable at tournament:
-Madzin awaits an opponent in GF
-Tom awaits an opponent in GF
- a cyrax player has emerged from the ashes and awaits an opponent in GFs
-one of the many top Takeda players awaits you in GF

Only then is picking Kenshi a good idea if you have mastered him. If you have not you will get dedicated on and feel an ounce of my 17 months of pure agony and pain.

MU numbers
However I'm open to these number changing here and there w video evidence but I'm in no way interested how you do vs your training partner in some third world country, small American town, online clan battles, etc. show me best vs the best or don't consider arguing at all. Below is my current living Kenshi MU chart. Look at it while you can and cry if you must. Sorry this character absolutely is garbage.

Kenshi Matchup chart:

Kenshi Balanced

Alien:

Acidic 3-7
Tarkatan 4-6
Konjurer 4-6

Leatherface:

Pretty Lady 4-6
Killer 4-6
Butcher 4-6

Jason:

Unstoppable 3-7
Slasher 5-5
Relentless 5-5

Predator:

Warrior 6-4
Hish-Qu-Ten - 7
Hunter 4-6

Kung Lao:

Hat Trick 6-4
Tempest 5-5
Buzz Saw 5-5

Shinnok:

Necromancer 4-6
Imposter 3-7
Boneshaper 2-8

Jax:

Pumped Up 4-6
Heavy Weapons 4-6
Wresler 4-6

Kano:

Commando 5-5
Cybernatic 4-6
Cutt Throat 3-7

Sonya Blade:

Special Forces - 4
Covert Ops 5-5
Demolition 3-7

Johnny Cage:

Fistacuffs 6-4
A-List 3-7
Stunt Double 3-7

Kenshi:

Balanced - X
Kenjutsu 4-6
Possessed 5-5

Erron Black:

Marksman 4-6
Gunslinger 4-6
Outlaw 4-6

Kitana:

Mournful 4-6
Royal Storm 5-5
Assassin 5-5

Liu Kang:

Dualist 5-5
Flame Fist 2-8
Dragon Fire 2-8

Scorpion:

Inferno 6-4
Ninjutsu 4-6
Hellfire 3-7

Ermac:

Spectral 4-6
Master of Souls 4-6
Mystic 4-6

Kotal Kahn:

Sun God 5-5
Blood God 4-6
War God 4-6

Sub-Zaro:

Grand Master 6-4
Cyromancer 6-4
Unbreakable 7-3

Reptile:

Noxious 4-6
Deceptive 4-6
Nimble 4-6

Mileena:

Ravenous 4-6
Ethereal 3-7
Piercing 3-7

Ferra-Torr:

Ruthless 4-6
Vicious 4-6
Lackey 4-6

Takeda:

Ronin 5-5
Shirai Ryu 5-5
Lasher 5-5

D'Vorah:

Brood Mother 4-6
Venomous 4-6
Swarm Queen 3-7

Cassie Cage:

Spec Ops 4-6
Hollywood 4-6
Brawler 4-6

Raiden:

Master of Storms 6-4
Displacer 5-5
Thunder God 5-5

Jackie Briggs:

Full-Auto 4-6
Shotgun 3-7
High-Tech 5-5

Quan Chi:

Sorcerer: 3-7
Warlock: 4-6
Summoner: 4-6

Kung Jin:

Bojutsu 5-5
Ancestral 5-5
Shaolin 4-6

Goro:

Tigrar Fury 6-4
Kuaten Warrior 6-4
Dragon Fangs 6-4

Tanya:

Pyromancer 5-5
Dragon Naginata 5-5
Kobu Jutsu 5-5

Tremor:

Crystalline 3-7
AfterShock 4-6
Metallic 5-5

Bo Rai Cho:

Dragon Breath 4-6
Drunken Master 5-5
Bartitsu 4-6

Triborg:

Smoke 4-6
Cyber Sub-Zero 5-5
Sektor 4-6
cyrax: 4-6

Kenshi Matchup chart:

Kenshi Possessed

Alien:

Acidic 3-7
Tarkatan 3-7
Konjurer 4-6

Leatherface:

Pretty Lady 4-6
Killer 4-6
Butcher 5-5

Jason:

Unstoppable 3-7
Slasher 5-5
Relentless 5-5

Predator:

Warrior 6-4
Hish-Qu-Ten 4-6
Hunter 4-6

Kung Lao:

Hat Trick 6-4
Tempest 6-4
Buzz Saw 6-4

Shinnok:

Necromancer 5-5
Imposter 3-7
Boneshaper 3-7

Jax:

Pumped Up 5-5
Heavy Weapons 5-5
Wresler 4-6

Kano:

Commando 6-4
Cybernatic 5-5
Cutt Throat 3-7

Sonya Blade:

Special Forces 5-5
Covert Ops 5-5
Demolition 3-7

Johnny Cage:

Fistacuffs 6-4
A-List 4-6
Stunt Double 3-7

Erron Black:

Marksman 5-5
Gunslinger 5-5
Outlaw 5-5

Kitana:

Mournful 5-5
Royal Storm 4-6
Assassin 4-6

Liu Kang:

Dualist 6-4
Flame Fist 3-7
Dragon Fire 3-7

Scorpion:

Inferno 6-4
Ninjutsu 5-5
Hellfire 4-6

Ermac:

Spectral 4-6
Master of Souls 4-6
Mystic 4-6

Kotal Kahn:

Sun God 5-5
Blood God 4-6
War God 5-5

Sub-Zaro:

Grand Master 6-4
Cyromancer 6-4
Unbreakable 7-3

Reptile:

Noxious 3-7
Deceptive 3-7
Nimble 3-7

Mileena:

Ravenous 4-6
Ethereal 3-7
Piercing 2-8

Ferra-Torr:

Ruthless 4-6
Vicious 4-6
Lackey 4-6

Takeda:

Ronin 5-5
Shirai Ryu 6-4
Lasher 6-4

D'Vorah:

Brood Mother 4-6
Venomous 4-6
Swarm Queen 3-7

Cassie Cage:

Spec Ops 5-5
Hollywood 5-5
Brawler 5-5

Raiden:

Master of Storms 6-4
Displacer 6-4
Thunder God 6-4

Jackie Briggs:

Full-Auto 4-6
Shotgun 4-6
High-Tech 5-5

Quan Chi:

Sorcerer: 5-5
Warlock: 5-5
Summoner: 5-5

Kung Jin:

Bojutsu 4-6
Ancestral 5-5
Shaolin 3-7

Goro:

Tigrar Fury 6-4
Kuaten Warrior 6-4
Dragon Fangs 6-4

Tanya:

Pyromancer 5-5
Dragon Naginata 5-5
Kobu Jutsu 5-5

Tremor:

Crystalline 3-7
AfterShock 4-6
Metallic 5-5

Bo Rai Cho:

Dragon Breath 4-6
Drunken Master 4-6
Bartitsu 4-6

Triborg:

Smoke 4-6
Cyber Sub-Zero 4-6
Sektor 4-6
cyrax: 5-5

Kenshi Kenjutsu

Alien:

Acidic 3-7
Tarkatan 4-6
Konjurer 4-6

Leatherface:

Pretty Lady 5-5
Killer 5-5
Butcher 5-5

Jason:

Unstoppable 3-7
Slasher 6-4
Relentless 5-5

Predator:

Warrior 6-4
Hish-Qu-Ten 4-6
Hunter 5-5

Kung Lao:

Hat Trick 6-4
Tempest 6-4
Buzz Saw 6-4

Shinnok:

Necromancer 4-6
Imposter 3-7
Boneshaper 3-7

Jax:

Pumped Up 5-5
Heavy Weapons 5-5
Wresler 4-6

Kano:

Commando 5-5
Cybernatic 5-5
Cutt Throat 3-7

Sonya Blade:

Special Forces - 4
Covert Ops 5-5
Demolition 3-7

Johnny Cage:

Fistacuffs 6-4
A-List 4-6
Stunt Double 3-7

Kenshi:

Balanced 4-6
Kenjutsu
Possessed 5-5

Erron Black:

Marksman 5-5
Gunslinger 5-5
Outlaw 5-5

Kitana:

Mournful 5-5
Royal Storm 6-4
Assassin 6-4

Liu Kang:

Dualist 5-5
Flame Fist 3-7
Dragon Fire 3-7

Scorpion:

Inferno 6-4
Ninjutsu 4-6
Hellfire 4-6

Ermac:

Spectral 5-5
Master of Souls 5-5
Mystic 4-6

Kotal Kahn:

Sun God 5-5
Blood God 4-6
War God 5-5

Sub-Zaro:

Grand Master 6-4
Cyromancer 6-4
Unbreakable 7-3

Reptile:

Noxious 4-6
Deceptive 4-6
Nimble 4-6

Mileena:

Ravenous 4-6
Ethereal 3-7
Piercing 3-7

Ferra-Torr:

Ruthless 4-6
Vicious 4-6
Lackey 4-6

Takeda:

Ronin 5-5
Shirai Ryu 5-5
Lasher 6-4

D'Vorah:

Brood Mother 4-6
Venomous 4-6
Swarm Queen 3-7

Cassie Cage:

Spec Ops 5-5
Hollywood 5-5
Brawler 5-5

Raiden:

Master of Storms 6-4
Displacer 5-5
Thunder God 6-4

Jackie Briggs:

Full-Auto 4-6
Shotgun 3-7
High-Tech 5-5

Quan Chi:

Sorcerer: 4-6
Warlock: 5-5
Summoner: 6-4

Kung Jin:

Bojutsu 5-5
Ancestral 5-5
Shaolin 4-6

Goro:

Tigrar Fury 6-4
Kuaten Warrior 6-4
Dragon Fangs 6-4

Tanya:

Pyromancer 5-5
Dragon Naginata 5-5
Kobu Jutsu 5-5

Tremor:

Crystalline 3-7
AfterShock 4-6
Metallic 5-5

Bo Rai Cho:

Dragon Breath 4-6
Drunken Master 5-5
Bartitsu 4-6

Triborg:

Smoke 5-5
Cyber Sub-Zero 5-5
Sektor 5-5
cyrax: 6-4


Conclusion:

Best variation: Kenjutsu

However this question always baffles me. People will ask "pig what's the best variation for kenshi" the answer you see is not so easy. Here's real rap

Kenshi's three variations are like three women at a bar. They want you, they want nothing more than to talk with you and start a relationship with you. You might ask yourself which one is the best. Well here is the issue

Woman 1 has AIDS
Woman 2 has a contagious skin rot
Woman 3 is an active wanted serial killer

There isn't a good answer which to choose, just choose the lesser of three evils.

It's at this point in the post where I say if anyone ever doubts me again three days into a game when I say a character is a dumpster fire, please do not tell me to give it time. I've given 17 months to this vomit and have nothing to show for my efforts because of how crud he is. I rest my case

Enjoy MKXL everybody
Do you have any video evidence of kenshi against dualist ? It's so sad to see a mu go from 2-8 to 5-5 like what the hell nrs
 

Pig Of The Hut

Day 0 Phenomenal Dr. Fate and Darkseid player
Do you have any video evidence of kenshi against dualist ? It's so sad to see a mu go from 2-8 to 5-5 like what the hell nrs
Against dualist I don't have to worry about the same zoning that reflect doesn't even do help with

There's no FF bs

There's no DF cancel pressure

Much easier for a shit character to deal w

I mean dude, looks at the three variations, you know these answers you're smart
 
Against dualist I don't have to worry about the same zoning that reflect doesn't even do help with

There's no FF bs

There's no DF cancel pressure

Much easier for a shit character to deal w

I mean dude, looks at the three variations, you know these answers you're smart
Ikno, I was just trying to imply that a mu can change SO much by a variation that it's crazy.
And you're right I personally feel dualist go evenly against kenshi. Dualist is a corner variation and because of dualist not having good zoning tools I spend, 90% of the mu trying to get in. You were right take the asterisk off its 5-5.
 

Pig Of The Hut

Day 0 Phenomenal Dr. Fate and Darkseid player
Ikno, I was just trying to imply that a mu can change SO much by a variation that it's crazy.
And you're right I personally feel dualist go evenly against kenshi. Dualist is a corner variation and because of dualist not having good zoning tools I spend, 90% of the mu trying to get in. You were right take the asterisk off its 5-5.
FF and DF feel like AIDS

Dualist I'm like whatever
 

conqueror

Apprentice
I agree with all of the Balanced Kenshi match up chart (the only variation that i play), its exactly like what i would put it! The most accurate list that I've ever seen.

I feel high tech (i don't play her) is stronger 4-6 instead of 5-5 that's all i would change

Great work man
 

PND OmegaK

Drunk and Orderly
I don't doubt you at all but I am curious to here your opinion on Dragon Breath vs Kenshi matchups. I'm not a Bo downplayer, I actually think he does well against a lot of the cast due to his 1 hit kill potential but Kenshi (especially Kenjutsu) is one of the few matchups I have issues with due to Bo's horrific mobility and clumsy normals. A bit of insight would probably help me out a lot.
 

PapaRegadetho

All hail emperor Liucifer Kang!
How the mighty have fallen. Kenshi, Kung Lao and Cyrax met their demise in MKX. I do believe all three of them will somehow end up in S tier, if not Cyrax and Kung Lao, Kenshi will for sure. How does a character, even after so many buffs stay garbage?
 

ismael4790

Stay focused or get Caged
Great mu chart!

I wanted to ask about a couple of characters though:

Why you put Bo Rai Cho as an even or losing mu for Balanced? I think Balanced destroys him, he has a very hard time to get in, his mobility sucks. I had this in mind as one of the few Balanced good matchups, the numbers shocked me.

About Fisticuffs vs Balanced, I think Fisticuffs can actually give more problems to Balanced than a 5-5. Maybe a 4-6. But anyway, the other variations are worse to fight against, yes.
 
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M2Dave

Zoning Master
How does a character, even after so many buffs stay garbage?
My three guesses...

1. The buffs are minor and/or fail to address the character's core weakness. While Balanced Kenshi would be a suitable character for games like Mortal Kombat 9 and Injustice, he lacks the powerful offense to compete in the Mortal Kombat X meta game.

2. Speaking of offense, perhaps the design is that Kenshi should only have good zoning in Balanced and good offense in Kenjutsu and Possessed. This design choice, however, almost always results in low tier characters in Mortal Kombat X. The best characters in the game like Acidic Alien, Cutthroat Kano, and Piercing Mileena have good zoning and good offense all in one variation.

3. A subconscious effort exists to keep Kenshi fairly weak because of how dominant he was in Mortal Kombat 9.
 

ismael4790

Stay focused or get Caged
My three guesses...

1. The buffs are minor and/or fail to address the character's core weakness. While Balanced Kenshi would be a suitable character for games like Mortal Kombat 9 and Injustice, he lacks the powerful offense to compete in the Mortal Kombat X meta game.

2. Speaking of offense, perhaps the design is that Kenshi should only have good zoning in Balanced and good offense in Kenjutsu and Possessed. This design choice, however, almost always results in low tier characters in Mortal Kombat X. The best characters in the game like Acidic Alien, Cutthroat Kano, and Piercing Mileena have good zoning and good offense all in one variation.

3. A subconscious effort exists to keep Kenshi fairly weak because of how dominant he was in Mortal Kombat 9.
Point 3 has played a VERY important part imo. And not so subconscious xD
 

Rude

You will serve me in The Netherrealm
Why is Boneshaper a 7-3 in Shinnok's favor vs Balanced? I'm legit asking. What makes it that bad for Kenshi?
 

SaltShaker

In Zoning We Trust
I know the feeling. It's frustrating.

Being told to wait and play it out when the obvious is right in front of you, then in August 2016 have to say the same exact thing while everyone else has been uber buffed. Then other characters get torched or mega buffed without waiting to "play out" anything. That's the definition of contradiction.

The irony in it is having his MK9 variation named "Balanced", which can almost be perceived as a sign of trolling Kenshi players. The irony, the irony indeed.