Guide - Kenshi ***UPDATED 8-16-16 *** Pig of the Hut's Kenshi MU thread

[BunLantern]

As a guy who only players Goro I was always baffled by all of the Kenshi players saying he was awful. I always felt at a slight disadvantage in that matchup regardless of which variation I chose. Now I know that I wasn't crazy and Goro just so happens to be one of the few characters Kenshi does well against.

Tldr: Goro and Kenshi suck

 

[Lokheit]

But Pig!! All this work and you will have to make a new MU Chart 18 days from today when our blind hero becomes S tier!!

At least this will be kept in the annals of history to remind us how deserving Lord Kenshi will be of his new position as a god walking amongst mere S+ tiers and paladin of the enduring players.

I agree, Kenshi's design is flawed (you can't have SO MANY moves that you can't use under any circumstance if you want to win and his main tools fail to deliver at the level of the rest of the cast) but at least there are ways to fix him se there is hope... if there is indeed a new patch.

Some others have no hope at all unless NRS takes the time to rework them from zero (every single time they tried to improve Unbreakable they added something that didn't address his problems and instead created mutiple personality crisis for the poor variation).

With Cryomancer and Kenjutsu being the 2 variations I've played the most by far since day 0, I have all my hopes on August 23 and I keep lying to myself into believing it's going to happen.

 

[Crusty]

The best characters in mk9 went from powerful to severely neutered as they transferred over, a pity truly.

All that is left is to release Kabal only to nerf him.

 

[Eddy Wang]

At least all his variation still get 6-4 over Hat Trick lol, doesn't change the fact that he suck tho.

 

[xKhaoTik]

The best characters in mk9 went from powerful to severely neutered as they transferred over, a pity truly.

All that is left is to release Kabal only to nerf him.

Sonya is still top and some even say she's better in this game

 

[ATP2014]

I more don't understand how Kenshi does so well vs Takeda overall. What's the reasoning behind that?

 

[Pig Of The Hut]

Sub Zaro confirmed shitty unviable low tier who needs fully invincible and safe on block slide and a safe vortex

Well I'll pick the one with AIDS, at least condoms can protect me properly

U just picked kenjutsu

Less of three evils

Good luck

 

[Pig Of The Hut]

How the mighty have fallen. Kenshi, Kung Lao and Cyrax met their demise in MKX. I do believe all three of them will somehow end up in S tier, if not Cyrax and Kung Lao, Kenshi will for sure. How does a character, even after so many buffs stay garbage?

When your design is that bad it's super rough to fix which is why he is what he is after 15 buffs

 

[ismael4790]

I more don't understand how Kenshi does so well vs Takeda overall. What's the reasoning behind that?

Me neither, honestly. I don't see it as a 5-5...

I'm sure Pig has reasons for those numbers, though. But I think it's in Takeda's favor. Not as much as pre march buffs, because the parry plays an important role now in the matchup and gives Kenshi a little bit of breethe (for example he can punish Takeda's Tornado attack -safe on block- with a parry) but still...

It's hard for me to label as a 5-5 matchups where the opponent can full combo punish on reaction any whiffed teleflurry, anywhere on the screen, when they have meter. It limits a lot your ability to control the space, which is bad enough by itself :/

 

[Pig Of The Hut]

Why is Boneshaper a 7-3 in Shinnok's favor vs Balanced? I'm legit asking. What makes it that bad for Kenshi?

It's 2-8 vs balanced

 

[ando1184]

Good stuff @Pig Of The Hut, glad we finally have a matchup chart. Fingers crossed for fixes/buffs........

 

[Rude]

It's 2-8 vs balanced

I mixed the numbers up.

Why is it 2-8? What makes it so bad?

 

[Dankster Morgan]

@Pig Of The Hut im not criticizing, but can you give me a little insight into the Possessed vs Reptile matchup, I don't think I'v ever seen it once, much less played it

 

[TheGangstaFace]

Who do you think is worse? @Pig Of The Hut

 

[Crusty]

Sonya is still top and some even say she's better in this game

She'll inevitably get her turn.

 

[DarksydeDash]

Kenshi vs Shinnok is cancer. CANCER!!!!!

Anyway, yeah I agree on these numbers (except unbreakable for obvious reasons) and that Kenjutsu is the best variant.

 

[TKB]

How does every variation of kenshi go even with or beat Takeda but he loses to BRC? Serious question.

 

[Cibernetico]

Can this be front paged?

 

[ismael4790]

Can this be front paged?

It deserves it, @Tim Static

 

[Belial]

When your design is that bad it's super rough to fix which is why he is what he is after 15 buffs

So you have any idea where to start?
Because IMHO you don't need much to fix him or even break him. At least they did it for Jason...

 

[Diego de Souza Costa]

Does that AK47 have Valve's new spray pattern ?!.. if so, i think you'd be fine with that wooden stick... kek


Anyways, good shit Pig, shit like this just supports my crazy theory that Lord Paulo doesn't want to actually "Balance" this character....

 

[LastKarma]

I 100% agree with this. Kenshi is inside out asshole. Stay far far away

 

[coconutshrimp]

It sucks that literally the single most awesome character is so fucking traassh. It hurts.

Good job on the MU chart. Very accurate.

MKXL Kenshi players = MK9 Jade players

 

[errormacro7]

She'll inevitably get her turn.

Get her turn to overnerfed?

Lol Just wait and see.

 

[errormacro7]

This chart is so... sad. It's like NRS didn't want Kenshi to be good in the game.