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Day -4MONTHS Dual Jin main
No way dude, Dragon's was.Can we all agree that Wound Cowboy had the best intro?
No way dude, Dragon's was.Can we all agree that Wound Cowboy had the best intro?
Hayatei vs pl ended 3 1, he got mixed real hard by smoke. Smoke is actually insane lolScar's Smoke was dripping swag. Same with PL's. I just wish we got to see PL vs Hayatei. Wasn't it 3-0? Hayatei is usually extremely dominant and that would have been cool to see it happen from a Smoke.
Yeah he is I wish I saw it.Hayate
Hayatei vs pl ended 3 1, he got mixed real hard by smoke. Smoke is actually insane lol
Ring Ropes vs. Dragon 10-0 MU.No way dude, Dragon's was.
You can't proclaim the game's death after a 200 player major. It sucks that your scene peaced out, but that doesn't mean it's dead everywhere else.I did travel for this game. A few times. Even established a local scene and held locals (paid for the venue too BTW) for awhile until NRS fucked the game up because crybabies crying. And then slowly watched the game die out.
Sorry but the games dead. It's slowly going to dissipate and before this next 6 months is up, it'll probably be at side tournament status.
You're confusing local and offline presence (outside of majors) for the game dying, locals are dead for pretty much everything but smash aren't they?I did travel for this game. A few times. Even established a local scene and held locals (paid for the venue too BTW) for awhile until NRS fucked the game up because crybabies crying. And then slowly watched the game die out.
Sorry but the games dead. It's slowly going to dissipate and before this next 6 months is up, it'll probably be at side tournament status.
No shit, he didn't select the character and walk away. My point is he went to Erron when it mattered most and used that character, still people complain about alien.Erron black didn't win another major, sonic fox won another major
Sonya is a potato. Even more of a hype killer than Alien/Mileena.I'm surprised so many complain about Alien and Mileena but think Scar is hype, I can understand when he busts out the Hat Trick Lao that is fun to watch but do you guys really enjoying watching Sonya and Smoke?
I love watching Scar's Demolition Sonya, personally. That 67% x-ray combo was sick. and I can't imagine someone not enjoying his Smoke. Some of the reads and punishes he was making with those Smoke Phases were amazing to see.I'm surprised so many complain about Alien and Mileena but think Scar is hype, I can understand when he busts out the Hat Trick Lao that is fun to watch but do you guys really enjoying watching Sonya and Smoke?
We're about to end up with 600 entrants at EVO and a $50,000 pot bonus for a 'dead game'.How many times do you have to write "is dead" in the results thread for a live game to make it true? Isn't a dead game one nobody plays?
For everyone still passionate about the game, we should be supporting them and prioritizing the long-term/overall health of the community over just this current title.If you don't like the game just stop playing/ watching and move on. It's really not hard.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^You're confusing local and offline presence (outside of majors) for the game dying, locals are dead for pretty much everything but smash aren't they?
Online is good enough to kinda nullify the need for locals nowadays at least, and there's probably less to gain skill wise than there is online now we have such a good netcode
Much like the great "only top 16/8/3/1 matters" debate, being at EVO is irrelevant to non-players unless you have the biggest numbers.We're about to end up with 600 entrants at EVO and a $50,000 pot bonus for a 'dead game'.
So can we come to a consensus that the safe 50/50's into more 50/50's meta the anti-hype to fg'sI'm going to be honest, I stopped watching during Scar vs Semiij. Both were playing solid, especially Semiij. Then Scar started eating him up with 50/50 after 50/50. All Semiij was doing wrong was not guessing right. I couldn't finish watching.
That said, great tournament to watch and it seemed to run smooth enough from a stream monsters perspective. Congrats once again to the robot alien known as SonicFox.
Yea I'm not sure why people think this character is mediocre. He carries a vortex, the smoke bomb is safe(correct me if I'm wrong) and gets a free "out" of wakeup pressure with faze. Seems good to me. Just because a character doesn't have an armored wakeup attack doesn't mean it's buns.Hayate
Hayatei vs pl ended 3 1, he got mixed real hard by smoke. Smoke is actually insane lol
The *crucial* difference is that Mika always has to get past your footsies range in order to initiate her dumb stuff, regardless of where she is on screen. She doesn't have a teleport, and she has stubby limbs. There are zero crazy mixups she can activate in neutral that cannot be easily avoided and reacted to. If Mike is applying her mixups, it means that you messed up on your anti airs and/or whiff punishes, or she significantly out-footsied you.Mika has the nutty stuff midscreen as well. The full screen low gets alien nothing besides a knockdown.
It's like a trend to call underused variations/lowtiers hype, regardless of if they're actually entertaining to watch or not. Back during KiT, people used to enjoy watching characters like Demo Sonya and Takeda in top 8s, but now apparently they're considered hype killers and it's an issue when even one makes it to top 8 despite the fact that in terms of aesthetics and gameplan, they play roughly the same as they did half a year ago.I'm surprised so many complain about Alien and Mileena but think Scar is hype, I can understand when he busts out the Hat Trick Lao that is fun to watch but do you guys really enjoying watching Sonya and Smoke?
These are all fair points entirely. Thanks for having a regular discussion. I'm on the same page as everyone else with Alien's range fwiwThe *crucial* difference is that Mika always has to get past your footsies range in order to initiate her dumb stuff, regardless of where she is on screen. She doesn't have a teleport, and she has stubby limbs. There are zero crazy mixups she can activate in neutral that cannot be easily avoided and reacted to. If Mike is applying her mixups, it means that you messed up on your anti airs and/or whiff punishes.
Meanwhile, most characters (not all, I ackowledge) are basically always in Alien's mixup range. You really don't need to have messed up anything for him to make you guess. The max range mixups aren't super damaging, but it's still dumb in many people's opinions that you need to guess at all in that situation. That's the crux of it.
I've mentioned this before, it's kinda backwards I agree, people '5050s' when they're the one getting 5050'd to death, but when they're watching it they love it.It's like a trend to call underused variations/lowtiers hype, regardless of if they're actually entertaining to watch or not. Back during KiT, people used to enjoy watching characters like Demo Sonya and Takeda in top 8s, but now apparently they're considered hype killers and it's an issue when even one makes it to top 8 despite the fact that in terms of aesthetics, they play roughly the same as they did half a year ago.
On the other hand you have the vocal majority that swear they hate the rush down, safe 50/50 nature of this game, and wish there was more emphasis on other metas such as zoning and footsies. But when you have a player like F0xy who gets most of his mileage from zoning, whiff punishes, and anti-airs while playing one of the most solid neutrals on screen, you're met with "b12zZZZzzzz". Meanwhile a character like Smoke, who's essentially just setplay/vortex haven, is hailed as entertaining to watch.
It's become pretty apparent that people just see what they want to see, and are fine with that as long as their views are in line with general opinions held by the community/twitch chat.