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Eldriken
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No whiff canceling should be allowed at all.
Well you do know how to fumble a point your trying to make when someone doesn't take your shitty attitude lol.
Same applies to Sonyas divekick on whiff, also full combo punishable if you practice it, so either way, the cancelled knee/whiffed divekick, doesn't matter, there's already heavily punishing answers for both in the game, so learn them.
Cryomancer is even though imoWEAPONS HAVING HURTBOXES IS GOING TO MAKE GRANDMASTER THE NEW BROKE TIER, I'm warning you all.
The only reason Grandcock isn't in top 5 is because of characters with disjointed hitboxes, take them away and GM is going to have a god like tier list.
On second thought, I wouldn't mind this happening since it would mean Kenshi would be the only character in the game who wins this MU soo...
Kano's B1 was made more negative to accommodate letting it tick into commands grabs in Commando (B1 itself doesn't have a long enough duration to change the cancel advantage without it effecting the recovery).
Yeah man getting low profiled by D'Vorah's uppercut is awesome.
She needs it
Damn Kitana nerfed.
soo yeah, anyways i forgot to walk my goldfish i'll be back maybe later and we can talk about punishes that nobody said didn't exist, or having to go through recovery of wiffed normals in footsies.
w/e you say honest abe lol i don't even know whats goin on anymore you're the one who brought up age etc.. pretty sure i'm in the twilight zone atm. So thanks for being the bigger man my dood. I don;t know what i was thinking so i tried to cover it up by comparing birth years. I apologize
THANKYOU
At first I was like noooooo. But yea, I mean we can already cancel it for ridiculous plus frames/safety, and b232+4 is safe in R/V, just keep it safe in Lackey maybe.
Dude you really seem like you have some issues or can't seem to have a straight forward discussion. You started the age thing by assuming it was my first fighting game and then went on to educate me about footsie's - because your magical crystal ball revealed to you that i must be really young and it must be my first fighting game and i must not know what footsies are- right?... so ye keep embarrassing yourself and acting like an asshole i am sure its really helping your point- i am pretty sure i stuck with trying to make my point about f3.
The cancel nerf (cancel being +10) for D'Vorah works fine, cause she still gets her guaranteed options after f112 cancel, which are s2 and d4. After conditioning, she can go for OH/Low/Throw mixups, like she does currently. (cancel being +12)
Can you armour through either of those?? I think having a gap between s2 doesn't seem too heavy of a nerf?
Im not im just saying its not like ermack 45% OP damage.
RIP Brady. I don't feel the instances of this occuring are that egregious or unfair. In most instances the throw isn't guaranteed so if you read it you can poke out or duck out but maybe I'm missing something or people feel it's too oppressive in some matchups.
Did Shinnok fuck your girlfriend? If you think it's super oppressive then lower the block advantage. Removing it entirely removes a lot of the teeth of the move since third hit whiffs a lot of the time on block so you're essentially removing the ability to MB it on block entirely.
These are neat but Sub needs the ability to stagger more than anything. Raising block advantage on 1,1 (and it's a Cryo specific string so it won't affect other variations) would go a long way to helping out this variation. In conjunction with your changes it could possibly make Cryo viable.
Indeed it is
Ok man, saying it's your first fighter doesn't say anything about how old you are. You brought up age not i, but i really am not trying to be an asshole so i do apologize if you think i was trying to be. I understand its punishable on wiff my friend that was never the reason we said nerf the cancel on wiff. it's only due to the fact you're still gettin around using that normal without going through the full recovery without it making contact for a cancel recovery. so in terms of footsies it's indeed the opposite basically.
he turns back visible once he gets hit, so we are saying the same thing really.
I tend to agree with this. This change would not necessarily be unfair, as Reo was consistent above in applying it to all characters that currently don't have a hurtbox on their weapons, but for certain characters like Jin and Takeda, their superior range on normals is essentially their number one strength, and if you were to add a hurtbox to the staff or whips, it would essentially nullify that as a differentiating factor. What good would their increased range be if it also exposed them to punishment?
