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The Abbot

Unit LK-52O
For those who can't or just won't read all this. Here's a quick summary:

Nerf Sonya
Buff under used variations
Nerf Alien
Buff Tanya
Nerf Sonya
Fix hit boxes universally across the board
Nerf Alien
Buff Lui Kang (Dualist and FF)
Nerf Sonya

I think that's everything I gathered. lol
 
I think all characters with an armored move can excape and hit her. You have to time it so that the grenade detonates on your armor and you hit her before the active frames of her next 50/50. Of course she can block and punish you instead of going for another 50/50. Its all mind games. Check the videos on the Demo forums to understand your options against demo. She will only be as plus as you allow her to be.
Takeda can t predator can t
 

The Abbot

Unit LK-52O
Why is throw not being able to be teched in combo a bad idea to those who disagree?
It's part of the games meta.

If you made the read your opponent was gonna throw either mid or post combo and guess the right direction to tech (in my opinion) you deserve the escape.
 

just_2swift

MK1 is the best MK period.
Buff hat trick
Buff buzz saw

Raiden:

make f4 overhead

Shocker to be made mid ex stays high

Vince blast mid

Lighting cancels to be across variations

Faster start up on d2

Lighting traps dmg over time to 1.5%

Better collision on f2

Standing 4 to be +1 on block
 
Looks like I got some trolls attacking me and going around and posting "old" on my posts. Seriously, just talk about why my Sonya points are right or wrong, and be done with it. You going around and attacking me or posting "old" on my posts aren't solving the issue or proving your argument on why Sonya needs to be nerfed. It's actually quite saddening to see such hive-like behavior, but alas, it's TYM.
 
I remember that time when Jacqui was considered low tier and you kept arguing with all of us that she was top 10, and Kitana, who was and still is pretty damn good, was shit. So don't think that mentioning members from those clans to back you up gives you credibility because you don't have any.
When did I say that? That wasn't me and has NEVER been me. If anything I said Jacqui was mid tier at best but had glaring difficulties that suppressed her from reaching her true potential. I remember saying Kitana was crap because at that time, she was crap. And honestly, she still is with the most recent patch. You can't tell me she wasn't affected by the breaker change, other characters having something similar to her and excelling in areas where she lacked in (defense, rushdown (outside of assassin perhaps)). I still to this day stand by those comments and if those measure "validity", fine. But don't act like your shit don't stink either because you've said some questionable things on this site as well that was plain ludicrous.
 

Dankster Morgan

It is better this way
When did I say that? That wasn't me and has NEVER been me. If anything I said Jacqui was mid tier at best but had glaring difficulties that suppressed her from reaching her true potential. I remember saying Kitana was crap because at that time, she was crap. And honestly, she still is with the most recent patch. You can't tell me she wasn't affected by the breaker change, other characters having something similar to her and excelling in areas where she lacked in (defense, rushdown (outside of assassin perhaps)). I still to this day stand by those comments and if those measure "validity", fine. But don't act like your shit don't stink either because you've said some questionable things on this site as well that was plain ludicrous.
Kitana is good now, she was buffed in the last patch. I'd actually argue the breaker change made her better because someone like say Cage can't go in and rush her after her or she breaks and she has the best back walk in the game so she can create space pretty easily and start zoning.
 
I think all characters with an armored move can excape and hit her. You have to time it so that the grenade detonates on your armor and you hit her before the active frames of her next 50/50. Of course she can block and punish you instead of going for another 50/50. Its all mind games. Check the videos on the Demo forums to understand your options against demo. She will only be as plus as you allow her to be.
Finally someone that gets it.
 
Kitana is good now, she was buffed in the last patch. I'd actually argue the breaker change made her better because someone like say Cage can't go in and rush her after her or she breaks and she has the best back walk in the game so she can create space pretty easily and start zoning.
Maybe when I played her, i didn't find as much success and that's just my personal bias creeping in but honestly, I can't get with Royal Storm or Assassin. Mournful (which at the time, was considered on par with Assassin for worst variation) was the variation i gravitated to and liked. Perhaps I need to go back to it and lab it and see how it has changed within me dropping it for 6 months.
 

Skedar70

Noob
she control space pretty well lock you down for a bunch of 50/50s that lead to 30% into reload for her her divekick make your teleport whiff with her wake up she doesn t have to hold your oki it s a 7-3 easy
So what is ur point? what do you want? You want to get free out of her 50/50 into grenade? You gotta make the reads. I already told you u can poke, you can armor, you can jump as long as you make the reads. Is there some risk? Yeah but that is how fighting games play.
 
To the guy who said old, what mature-ish person goes to posts and does disagree on everything lmao
Is the "old' thing happening a lot to you as well? Go back to Page 2 and see all the "old" ratings I've received as well. Not even funny at this point and borderline embarrassing (with a tint of harassment.)
 

Dankster Morgan

It is better this way
Iv said it before but I think it applies here too. The mid to upper mid characters are cheap as fuck and have any dirt you could possibly need to win. Characters like Kung Jin, Cassie, Sub-Zero, Reptile, Scorpion, Liu Kang, Tremor, Jax, Jason, and several others are really really good but are still outshined by Alien, Sonya, Kano, D'Vorah, Mileena, Cage, Ermac... Honesty the levels of fuckery going on in the mid tier is all it should extend to.