Question - Kung Jin Bojutsu vs. Shaolin: which is the better variation for high level play (and why?)

[GAV]

Nah

For me, Kung Jin is as bland as rice cakes. On his best day, Ben Stein is his hype-man.

 

[SwegZero]

Also why pick Kung Jin up when you got A-list? lol

They're even tbh, A-list isn't that much better

 

[SwegZero]

For me, Kung Jin is as bland as rice cakes. On his best day, Ben Stein is his hype-man.

I like blue, so I like seeing the chakram flying around.

 

[Tweedy]

Can you really hit confirm B14 Bo Swat?

 

[GAV]

I like blue, so I like seeing the chakram flying around.

It makes me blue that someone likes it. I'm hoping for KJ to be one and done.

 

[TackyHaddock]

mobility is also a major distinguishing factor for shaolin. I use upkick pretty often as a repositioning tool to get to the other side of the opponent and reset the neutral (no shaolin drop, just upkick alone as a poor man's teleport). It is great if you are starting to get moved towards the corner, etc. Every time I switch to Bojutsu or Ancestral these days, I find their mobility to be so much weaker overall, thus making them less viable against characters like Lao and Takeda who have great mobility.

 

[TackyHaddock]

It makes me blue that someone likes it. I'm hoping for KJ to be one and done.

Ah, little Gav, the infamous Kung Jin hater who just can't resist trolling our threads...

 

[PetulantWaste]

I would say that for match ups against characters who are pressure heavy IE DVorah swarm queen, DF Liu Kang, A List Johnny, High tech Jaqui etc or characters with stupid plus frames Boj is better because you get more bang for you buck when you armor and your opponent is going to press buttons all the time. Against characters with really good zoning, mobility use Shaolin and in very specific situations against characters like BRC or Leather face you can use ancestral for better zoning and higher meterless damage.

TL DR: There's no reason not to learn every variation.

 

[YoloRoll1stHit]

Bojutsu is actually a good choice against a character who can't punish -8 on block F24. Yea Shaolin is best but Bojutsu is good to

 

[D7X]

Also why pick Kung Jin up when you got A-list? lol

KJ is one of my pocket mains. This post is old for me. I some how improved so much in the past like 20 days or so, I couldn't do A-List's cancels ONCE in 2 hours from the time this was posted

 

[D7X]

They're even tbh, A-list isn't that much better

They're even? I don't think so. Can anyone else confirm this?

 

[RM NoBrows]

They're even tbh, A-list isn't that much better

A list is one of the 5 best variations in the game. Shaolin is very good, but let's not over exaggerate

 

[RM NoBrows]

shaolin is Kung jin's best variation. His space control is outrageous with chakram and low chakram, shaolin lunge covers almost the entire screen and the drop is +, so that leaves for mind games on if you'll do it or not. This variation is his most meter reliant too. And ex chakram/low chakram has a incredibly dumb hurt box where you can be behind king Jin and still get hit by it.

 

[D7X]

For me, Kung Jin is as bland as rice cakes. On his best day, Ben Stein is his hype-man.

Why do you have to rant in this forum?
I think Jacqui is the most bland.

 

[GrimJack]

Also why pick Kung Jin up when you got A-list? lol

GM Sub lol

 

[Renzokuken]

And ex chakram/low chakram has a incredibly dumb hurt box where you can be behind king Jin and still get hit by it.

Pretty sure that the backwards hitbox on his chakram has been patched.

As for why Shaolin is currently one of the best variations in the game? Starts at 14:38.

 

[WakeUp DP]

GM Sub lol

Everything goes through ice clone like it if wasn't there anyway.

 

[Gofer_MK_]

I don't want to be that guy, but next time you have a question about a specific character you can ask in the general character thread in each individual forum.

 

[dennycascade]

So Shaolin's dropkick is -7 if you make it a true blockstring from the up kick, but if you delay and leave a gap it will be plus? How plus can you make it?

 

[SwegZero]

It makes me blue that someone likes it. I'm hoping for KJ to be one and done.

Well, go star in avatar to get money if you're blue.

 

[Dankster Morgan]

Everything goes through ice clone like it if wasn't there anyway.

Except A-List ironically

 

[WakeUp DP]

Except A-List ironically

lol then you don't know the MU.

 

[Dankster Morgan]

lol then you don't know the MU.

Yeah, 6-4 sub
Klone deals with his best normals, he doesn't just get rid of it the same way D'Vorah and Mileena can. His fireballs practically scream to be slid under. He has eclipse kick as a safe way to armor through Klone but it's a high and costs a bar. Tell me what I'm missing. @C88 Zombieekiler you play both of these characters so what's up with the Grandmaster vs A-List MU?

 

[WakeUp DP]

Yeah, 6-4 sub
Klone deals with his best normals, he doesn't just get rid of it the same way D'Vorah and Mileena can. His fireballs practically scream to be slid under. He has eclipse kick as a safe way to armor through Klone but it's a high and costs a bar. Tell me what I'm missing. @C88 Zombieekiler you play both of these characters so what's up with the Grandmaster vs A-List MU?

Haha cute.

 

[Dankster Morgan]

Haha cute.

I'm well aware that A-List is one of the top characters, but he does have losing matchups. So anyways thanks for telling me how I have no clue how a matchup works, when I ask for an explaination on why you think something is the way it is, once again I'm the idiot. I have no problem being proved wrong, the more I can learn, the better. So please do it since I'm clearly missing something.