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Kindred

Kindred

Let Be Be Finale Of Seem
boba_buster said:
He got pretty serious nerfs considering he needed buffs , he lost his true vortex , oh can be armored , his ex smoke bomb is now + 5 down from +8 , and his already low low damage was dropped by 2
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So is it Cyber Smoke or Cyber frustration at this point if i pick him up?
 
boba_buster

boba_buster

Noob saibot
So I been doing well playing keep away , constantly walking back making the opponent chase me , f34 is great cuz u can delay the 4 , and it throws them full screen on hit. And trains them to block low. f42 when they try to run in
 
Harlequin969

Harlequin969

Always press buttons
I've been told he can still get at least 30% per hit but it's a pain in the ass to get it from when I labbed him.
 
boba_buster

boba_buster

Noob saibot
It's very hard to break 30% even with a bar , you can get 37% to 40% off a f43 but it's risky , smoke cloud scales so much even if u jikxx extele after u still ain't hitting 30%. You have to be unsafe to do damage. He plays 2 ways , high risk/high reward or low risk/low reward.
 
Harlequin969

Harlequin969

Always press buttons
boba_buster said:
It's very hard to break 30% even with a bar , you can get 37% to 40% off a f43 but it's risky , smoke cloud scales so much even if u jikxx extele after u still ain't hitting 30%. You have to be unsafe to do damage. He plays 2 ways , high risk/high reward or low risk/low reward.
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Yeah for the time being I'm probably gonna drop Smoke. He was fun prepatch but the damage nerfs were too much imo. He didn't have enough damage to justify them. Hard enough getting things going against someone who understands Smoke even a little and you're getting almost no reward for getting that hit.
 
Red Hood MKX

Red Hood MKX

Mercenary dog
boba_buster said:
It's very hard to break 30% even with a bar , you can get 37% to 40% off a f43 but it's risky , smoke cloud scales so much even if u jikxx extele after u still ain't hitting 30%. You have to be unsafe to do damage. He plays 2 ways , high risk/high reward or low risk/low reward.
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Dawm this sucks if we could find just a 30 percent one bar vortex combo smoke cloud starter he would be playable i think. Whats your combo ender with the jik ex tele can you do 4 trident jip2 after the ex tele, my bad i cant test nothing yet still not home
 
boba_buster

boba_buster

Noob saibot
Pretty much gotta run up f21xxtrident , damage scaling is just too much on smoke cloud to get anything for it , u can up the damage by using ex smoke bomb in your vortex but it just isn't worth it , damage ain't bad when you start mixing throws in , if the didn't nerf s3 he would still be pretty good but without that ppl can armor thru the overhead vortex starter
 
supernumian

supernumian

Triborg Enthusiast
Yesterday I play against a good War God as Smoke.
What can you do against his D1+B1 frame trap?
Triborg's fastest poke is 7 frame and it seems that I can't escape that pressure and Smoke doesn't have armor on any special.
I use a lot of phasing away/towards but seems impossible to escape...
 
vegeta

vegeta

Saiyan Prince
I began using smoke pre-patch as he's always been my favorite cyber ninja. I started noticing his weaknesses (like no armor and eats meter/stamina to do stuff) but those could be covered by vortex/momentum/mind games. Then the nerfs came through......and I was like.....wow...so he got worse. So until/if they buff him I'll use another of my interests as it's not worth the struggle, especially the zero armor part which on occasion sucks really bad in some situations even if you know gaps/matchups.
 
boba_buster

boba_buster

Noob saibot
Anytime you go for a jik you can hold down and throw and if the kick hits it will air throw them , and if they block it doesn't even come out. Same with f43
 
Geoffmeister

Geoffmeister

PS4/EU Ermac main
boba_buster said:
Anytime you go for a jik you can hold down and throw and if the kick hits it will air throw them , and if they block it doesn't even come out. Same with f43
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You can OS Phase-away in this situation: JiK - Air Throw - Phase Away
On hit: Air Throw connects
On block: Air throw doesn't come out + safe escape from 6 frame normals and many reversals (Phase towards is sometimes better for example vs Ball Roll)
 
Matix218

Matix218

Get over here!
That's some cool stuff with the smoke away/air throw option select on jump kicks.

I have not been playing smoke much at all lately cause I have been grinding out my hellfire for esl but I definitely like this tech. I need to get back to the lab with smoke again.
 
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