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Tweedy

Noob
1. Armour is the English way of spelling it, so technically it's correct because you know, English the language is from England the country.

2. Triborgs F4 isn't a good mid, too many issues. Also I'm fairly certain it's not 10f, record smoke to do f4d1 ex smoke bomb into F4, then as Kung Lao do a reversal spin yourself, you'll beat the f4 clean.

So this means that either the smoke bomb isn't +8 or the F4 isn't 10f.
1. Being ignorant is my favourite thing to do, clearly.

2. We're gonna have to agree to disagree, concerning F4.
 

Altsa

2. Triborgs F4 isn't a good mid, too many issues. Also I'm fairly certain it's not 10f, record smoke to do f4d1 ex smoke bomb into F4, then as Kung Lao do a reversal spin yourself, you'll beat the f4 clean.

So this means that either the smoke bomb isn't +8 or the F4 isn't 10f.
I have no idea what you are talking about here.

First of all f4d1~EX smoke bomb is not a true blockstring.
Testing vs Reptile: If you do point blank EX smoke bomb into f4 Reptile gets hit if he does EX Slide as a reversal.

Or did I completely miss your point?
 

Tweedy

Noob
Everyone disagrees with you cause you're wrong. Wouldnt call you out if you weren't an obnoxious douche.
Calling me names and then claiming that an opinion is final after 3-4 days of a character being released. Cool.

I have no trouble admitting that i'm wrong. I just think that F4 is a very good mid, that will end up being viable in competitive play. If I end up being wrong, i'll admit it. Calling me a douche, and then pointing towards a few credible people agreeing with you, doesn't mean that i'm definitely wrong. It just makes you look immature.
 

Wigy

There it is...
Calling me names and then claiming that an opinion is final after 3-4 days of a character being released. Cool.

I have no trouble admitting that i'm wrong. I just think that F4 is a very good mid, that will end up being viable in competitive play. If I end up being wrong, i'll admit it. Calling me a douche, and then pointing towards a few credible people agreeing with you, doesn't mean that i'm definitely wrong. It just makes you look immature.
Funny that its gone from 'top 3' to 'viable'... And from the guy who said i had a completely warped opinion cause of who i play. Seems like your backtracking now cause you've realise you're wrong. Cute calling someone immature, when you were saying my opinion was invalid for a stupid ass reason, and commenting on my spelling -which, by the way was correct.
 

KombatJames

For the lin kuei!
Maybe I should make a video on the other DLCs and explain why I think they're (soap bar in my mouth). I'm not sure why I've been the only one posting just about everything I come across with who I'm using. I guess everyone is hiding shit for Final Round. But most of the dumb stuff is pretty obvious so it doesn't matter, lol.
Please do a tutorial for smoke. Thanks
 

Tweedy

Noob
Funny that its gone from 'top 3' to 'viable'... And from the guy who said i had a completely warped opinion cause of who i play. Seems like your backtracking now cause you've realise you're wrong. Cute calling someone immature, when you were saying my opinion was invalid for a stupid ass reason, and commenting on my spelling -which, by the way was correct.
Your points are all irrelevant. I clearly wasn't backtracking at all. Your interpretation of the word viable, doesn't prove anything. In the same post I said that it's very good. Not backtracking at all.

You do have a warped opinion because of who you play. Sure Triborg isn't safe when he throws his fast advancing mid on block, but few characters are. Most characters don't even have one in the first place, so to say that it isn't good, is without a doubt more comical than me saying that it's top 3. When you have a 10-12 frame mid that advances far enough to land at the beginning of the match, you can punish many things that otherwise wouldn't be punished. You have a Johnny Cage avatar and you act as if Triborg's F4 isn't even a perk at all. Clearly a spoiled player.

I didn't call you immature. I said "it makes you look immature". If I tell someone they're acting dumb, that doesn't mean that I literally am calling them a dumb person. There's a difference. We're arguing about a video game characters tools on a video game forum. I don't know if you're actually immature or not. However, that's how you were acting.

My ignorance of how people spell things in other places, is totally irrelevant, especially since I quickly admitted that i'm wrong. You on the other hand called me a douche and basically claimed that your opinion is final because a couple credible people agreed with you. This was all in the same paragraph, so me saying that you're acting immature, is definitely more than "cute".
 

Wigy

There it is...
Your points are all irrelevant. I clearly wasn't backtracking at all. Your interpretation of the word viable, doesn't prove anything. In the same post I said that it's very good. Not backtracking at all.

You do have a warped opinion because of who you play. Sure Triborg isn't safe when he throws his fast advancing mid on block, but few characters are. Most characters don't even have one in the first place, so to say that it isn't good, is without a doubt more comical than me saying that it's top 3. When you have a 10-12 frame mid that advances far enough to land at the beginning of the match, you can punish many things that otherwise wouldn't be punished. You have a Johnny Cage avatar and you act as if Triborg's F4 isn't even a perk at all. Clearly a spoiled player.

I didn't call you immature. I said "it makes you look immature". If I tell someone they're acting dumb, that doesn't mean that I literally am calling them a dumb person. There's a difference. We're arguing about a video game characters tools on a video game forum. I don't know if you're actually immature or not. However, that's how you were acting.

My ignorance of how people spell things in other places, is totally irrelevant, especially since I quickly admitted that i'm wrong. You on the other hand called me a douche and basically claimed that your opinion is final because a couple credible people agreed with you. This was all in the same paragraph, so me saying that you're acting immature, is definitely more than "cute".
lol.
 

omooba

fear the moobs
don't really think he's broke anymore after labing him. his oki doesn't seem as nasty as summoner's currently is especially cus the only set up i can't block is b2 and grab making it seem like he has less options. idk he still seems nasty but he has problems. either way he'll get nerfed
 

A F0xy Grampa

Problem X Promotions
I have no idea what you are talking about here.

First of all f4d1~EX smoke bomb is not a true blockstring.
Testing vs Reptile: If you do point blank EX smoke bomb into f4 Reptile gets hit if he does EX Slide as a reversal.

Or did I completely miss your point?
Completely missed the point lol

I was talking about checking the speed of f4, I noticed that f4d1 ex SB into f4 isn't enough advantage to beat out Laos regular spin.

Therefore either the f4 is slower than 10f, or the ex smoke bomb isn't +8


Edit: don't read this it's wrong check the guys video further down, I have the execution of a fish
 
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Altsa

Completely missed the point lol

I was talking about checking the speed of f4, I noticed that f4d1 ex SB into f4 isn't enough advantage to beat out Laos regular spin.

Therefore either the f4 is slower than 10f, or the ex smoke bomb isn't +8
f4 beats Laos normal spin after EX smoke bomb. Every time.
 

omooba

fear the moobs
Completely missed the point lol

I was talking about checking the speed of f4, I noticed that f4d1 ex SB into f4 isn't enough advantage to beat out Laos regular spin.

Therefore either the f4 is slower than 10f, or the ex smoke bomb isn't +8
r u sure? i feel like it does
 

GuamoKun

I Break Hearts, Not Combos
Yeah these setups are good but getting them isn't as simple as it seems.

once again REO made a thread causing TYM to implode because people are dumb.

Hella people here have lame opinions and will never compete even in a local so take their opinions with a grain of salt

Lol jk take it with all the salt they generate from dealing with dirt
 

UsedForGlue

"Strength isn't everything"
Nvm I'm just (soap bar in my mouth) then :p
For some reason it wasn't working for me, and in similar situations for usedforglue.

But thanks for setting me straight.
Yip.

Sometimes I feel like his F4 isn't 10 frames.

But I think the issue is that is only active for 2 frames and it might be the very last 2 frames also.

And, the test the guy did, I believe it is true yea, but, consistently, getting that F4 to frame trap after the smoke bomb is another thing, if someone can do it 10/10, then great.