add more start up frames but make the recovery better after.
He has terrible matchups that only exist because of ranged attacks going through the clone, that can easily be changed. Any time a bad match up can be made even without overpowering the character it should be done. I never said Jason and Kenshi aren't more needing of buffs than Sub Zero, kid. I'm just saying what I personally want for my character eventually, and every patch so far has included changes for every character in the game, so there's no reason priorities have to be made. If you think any of that would make him OP on top of a damage nerf then you're wrong, so you have no point. And female hurt boxes would help everyone, not just Sub Zero. The fact is that Sub Zero can't combo females normally at all. Are you seriously arguing that shouldn't be fixed? None of your reply makes any sense, it just looks like a typical TYM keyboard warrior felt like acting tough and cool online.
You have to think in the neutral already. Not being able get the clone out after a string without losing your turn makes it unnecessarily hard to compete. I'm interested why you think GM would beat Dvorah 8-2 on top of a damage nerf though.
I don't want to be involved :|
I will never understand why tym/the NRS community seems to have a problem with character specific combos/tech. Every other fighting game I've ever played has situational combos/setups/cross ups that happen for a variety of reasons.
D'voras ONLY saving grace in that matchup is her pokes and f2 going through the clone. Shes a rushdown character with crappy projectiles.
I think if EX parry was good against jump ins it would be more balanced, and maybe normal ice aura could cause a minute amount of damage to the opponent (the ice hurts his hands yo)Ice clone nerf was the most unnecessary nerf in the history of gaming, it didn't accomplish anything
Unplayable:
Lets turn this variation into unbreakable by simple changes.
1. Normal ice aura reduces damage taken.
2. Ex ice aura reduces damage taken and heals sub zero, if sub zero gets hit healing stops.
3. Parry works against jump attacks.
Sub-zero's deception costume plz.
The parry should not catch jump ins. It would be broken. The parry does need tweaking but this notion of it catching all jump attacks is ridiculous.
Her hitbox too of course, but I disagree that Sub Zero requires less thought than 95% of the cast. There are counters for everything he does just like everyone else.
The problem is that it wrecks Sub Zero's corner game for no reason. It severely nerfs other characters' damage as well. I've lost tons of damage as a Warlock player just because of my opponent's hitbox. It makes no sense. I don't know how it is in other games but if there aren't people complaining about it in those communities then odds are that it's not as significant in those games as it is in MKX.
Umm..no. You just get corner raped until you die. You use your three bars, you get baited and destroyed.
Yeah if you're in the corner. But there are many ways to get out and reverse the situation. Midscreen his neutral is not brain dead. Saying they had to is an assumption that they didn't just want to or they didn't have the skill with their normal characters to play the GM match up well.
Sounds like they didn't have the skill then unless you think GM beats all their characters 6-4 at least. I do think GM should get a slight damage nerf but that's it. If they couldn't beat GM with Summoner then they're trash with him, so that doesn't mean much.
In melee it is 100x more significant than in MKX. You have to know different combos for literally every single match up in the game (not an exaggeration). I actually always liked the variety it provided, as it increased the game knowledge ceiling and you didn't constantly see the same BnBs like you do in other fighting games.
It's actually worse in other games. You have character specific combos, crouching/stand specific combos, screen positioning specific combos, counter hit specific combos(which can also depend on crouch/stand)character specific set ups/safe jumps(because other games also have variable wake up frame data for characters). MK has pretty much just got female/male hit boxes and like 2-3 characters with weird gravity. For the most part MK lets you learn a few BnBs and go play, it's simpler, not better or worse, just simpler.
