Question - Dragons Fire How good is DF Liu Kang really is?

[MadeFromMetal]

What a fuckin tough guy. What's the next major/local you're attending? I'll be there and beat you with no-variation LK and show you how fighting game fundamentals work.

I'll be at SCR. And I never claimed to be super dope awesome pulling off shit that people could only dream of. I'm pretty mediocre, so I have no issues with the fact you might body me. But, if you want to spend the time and money to fly to SoCal in October and run a set just to prove a point, I'm all for it. Why you so mad, anyway?

 

[LucaTheRipper]

What a ultra maximum troll thread

 

[TheIrishFGCguy]

Why do TYM members always fuel obvious troll threads. Let this go away please.

 

[STRYKIE]

I thought the LK community agreed Duelist is not viable. Did something change?

Well, the LK community are generally colluding idiot fucks.

Dualist is a bit better than it's credit for and I always maintained it needed more time for people to figure out better ideas for setups. It just that in the current state, it doesn't really bring anything to the table with the bases that Dragon's Fire and Flame Fist cover.

That being said, I don't think giving Dualist the MB Flipkick option after Bicycle Kick and less recovery on the Metamorphosis would go a miss, especially if the F213 string's cancel advantage is being adjusted to atone for DF's tomfoolery.

 

[fight60]

I'll be at SCR. And I never claimed to be super dope awesome pulling off shit that people could only dream of. I'm pretty mediocre, so I have no issues with the fact you might body me. But, if you want to spend the time and money to fly to SoCal in October and run a set just to prove a point, I'm all for it. Why you so mad, anyway?

Then don't waste my time with a stupid match like that. Put in some practice before you're passively snide to someone who spends 16 hours a day playing this game.

 

[exflyingbooty]

There are top tiers much easier to execute and have half the headache DF Liu has, see RS Kitana

This statement right here proved you don't know what you're talking about.

 

[fight60]

This statement right here proved you don't know what you're talking about.

Why don't you learn how to play Kitana before you spam my thread with uninformed bullshit?

 

[C88 Zombieekiler]

Listen man if youre to prideful thats ok but thats not banned in tourneys so when everyone rapes you dont come to us for lube liu kangs broke as fuck in dragon fire end of story

 

[KiD INsAnitY]

a high tier character is still not a top tier character.

 

[MadeFromMetal]

Then don't waste my time with a stupid match like that. Put in some practice before you're passively snide to someone who spends 16 hours a day playing this game.

Waste your time? You challenged me. Lol.

Maybe you should prove why I'm wrong about you going against top tier players. Maybe you should show us the sets where you lost 3-7 to a Top 8 or even Top 16 EVO placer using DF Kang, and then bodied them 8-2 using "RS Kitana or Temp Lao". Show us the proof when you make the claim or don't expect people to respect you or your opinion. Troll or not, good luck to you.

 

[rev0lver]

Then don't waste my time with a stupid match like that. Put in some practice before you're passively snide to someone who spends 16 hours a day playing this game.

shut up reo

 

[Scott The Scot]

Why do TYM members always fuel obvious troll threads. Let this go away please.

It's soooo fun though

 

[exflyingbooty]

Why don't you learn how to play Kitana before you spam my thread with uninformed bullshit?

I do know how to play her, I know how to play her better then quite a few people.

How the fuck is a character who cannot open someone up even remotely top tier?? She doesn't have any of the fucking top tier's tools such as a standing reset, a vortex(which in mournful requires meter and leads to a fucking 25 frame overhead that does shit), an overhead that leads to a full combo other then fucking float mixups which guess what, a smart player won't let that work after a while. Unless you play extremely recklessly, she's gonna look busted.

I got a question, do you jump a lot? When she's throwing fans do you hold block? Anyone who actually takes time and understands thing game will tell you she is nowhere even CLOSE to top tier and not even high tier.

So go inform yourself.

 

[TheIrishFGCguy]

I do know how to play her, I know how to play her better then quite a few people.

How the fuck is a character who cannot open someone up even remotely top tier?? She doesn't have any of the fucking top tier's tools such as a standing reset, an overhead that leads to a full combo other then fucking float mixups which guess what, a smart player won't let that work after a while. Unless you play extremely recklessly, she's gonna look busted.

I got a question, do you jump a lot? When she's throwing fans do you hold block? Anyone who actually takes time and understands thing game will tell you she is nowhere even CLOSE to top tier and not even high tier.

So go inform yourself.

Dude he's trolling the shit out of you. Leave it...

 

[MrProfDrPepper]

the infinite in dragon fire liu kang weather you like it or not is a big factor in his gameplan, it isnt banned anywhere and it makes it so he can compete against the top characters, if you have tools, and you are allowed to use them, USE THEM!

 

[MrProfDrPepper]

I'll be at SCR. And I never claimed to be super dope awesome pulling off shit that people could only dream of. I'm pretty mediocre, so I have no issues with the fact you might body me. But, if you want to spend the time and money to fly to SoCal in October and run a set just to prove a point, I'm all for it. Why you so mad, anyway?

on a side note i will be at SCR as well if you would like to play some casuals

 

[C88 Zombieekiler]

Dualist is probably high tier

man if youre not trolling youre as bad as the thread creator

 

[MadeFromMetal]

on a side note i will be at SCR as well if you would like to play some casuals

Definitely.

 

[MrProfDrPepper]

man if youre not trolling youre as bad as the thread creator

i dunno you can do some crazy shit with dualist, it is heavily slept on, ive seen some crazy viable shit in the corner

 

[Asodimazze]

man if youre not trolling youre as bad as the thread creator

I played Phosferrax a few times and there is no way Dualist is bad. It is not as broken as Dragon Fire but it has amazing pressure and lots of tricks, on top of Liu Kang already good general moves. I would say it is more or less on the same level as Flame fists.

Most of the players just have no idea what they are talking about when thinking about Dualist Liu Kang...they assume it is bad without a reason.

 

[C88 Zombieekiler]

i dunno you can do some crazy shit with dualist, it is heavily slept on, ive seen some crazy viable shit in the corner

he only has 2 + cancels remember red orb cancels are gimmicks his 2 plus cancels are: the stance changes which are like +9 and the light stance has a +14 mb fireball his zoning in dualist is absolutley shit

 

[Undeadjim]

he only has 2 + cancels remember red orb cancels are gimmicks the stance changes are like +9 and the light stance has a +14 mb fireball and his zoning is absolutley shit

You're used to the dumb Liu Kang these are good tools that make a decent playable character, not like Goro :'( please NRS buff the shit outta him.

 

[C88 Zombieekiler]

You're used to the dumb Liu Kang these are good tools that make a decent playable character, not like Goro :'( please NRS buff the shit outta him.

not good enough to be high tier imo

 

[MrProfDrPepper]

he only has 2 + cancels remember red orb cancels are gimmicks the stance changes are like +9 and the light stance has a +14 mb fireball and his zoning is absolutley shit

it is tough to explain but he has some really good dirt BUT i wont say that he is amazing or that he is top tier, i will just say i think he has a lot of potential and very unexplored

 

[Undeadjim]

not good enough to be high tier imo

I agree on that, hes just a more honest Liu. Problem is honestly don't win shit atm so there in lies the big problem but hey patch Monday.