I don't think this game is shittily designed at all.
Don't you even DARE complain about Predator's d1/d4. Those normals are incredible. Half the cast would sacrifice a goat to have those normals. BTW, Predator's throw range is INSANE, so you likely benefit more than anyone from this mechanic.
That doesn't exst in many games outside of Grabs beating block
Not a complaint, just making a point. IMO predator has some of the best pokes in the game, and can still be beaten by throw... So yeah, throws are good. That's all I'm trying to say. def not talking down on d1, or d4. I play a Kenshi main all the time, so they can be annoying haha. Also, in regard to predators throw i didn't realize the range was insane. I typically use it for semi unbreakable damage in combo, or on occasion after a plasma cancel so I'm pretty close. Thanks for the tip though. I'll look into scenarios where I can use that range.
Ok, you're off the hook. He's got a nice tick throw in f4(blocked) throw. Not to mention the standard tick throws just work better with his pokes.
No fighting game is completely realistic, but aspects of realism in fighting games is a big part of what makes them good. Combination attacks, throws, mix-ups, being classically trained versus having learned on your own - these are all aspects of fighting games that exist in the real world.
Identical? Don't d1 and d3 beat throws in MK9?
Umm, everyone knows who Riu48 is. He was a consistent top 8 placer in MK9.
I'm pretty sure at least some of them did, or at least, they did in some situations.
Only game I know with something even close to that is DoA.
We'll just have to agree to disagree on the philosophy of throws should work. I think it's fine and I prefer throws being good as opposed to just being ok. And my main point was that this is something that was in MK9 and it's been in many fighters before.Personally I liked the 1, 2 or 1+2 breaks for regular grabs in tekken, even though I never mastered that. Glad they kept them for command grabs. Was more of a point on doing away with things that aren't necessary. Idk how short the window was in TTT1 but I think they could find a sweet spot somewhere. Heck people still got thrown in T6 and TTT2 so it didn't seem like the tech window was too big. As for the crush system, I like it and always thought you could duck throws since tekken 2. However I am by no means an expert. Just a slightly knowledgeable casual lol. I'm sure there are vets that dislike the changes as with every fighter it seems.
I don't think you could implement tekken throws in a 2d game unless you made very specific differences. The only thing that comes close in my mind are purple breaks in BB and those aren't really the same.
For TAP statement. I was talking about balrog's Turn Around Punch. He isn't active the whole time like what seems to be the case for mileena's roll. My point was that I don't see why the active frames of those two moves would be similar when they seem to function differently. Which is also why I said how the MK system is understandable but definitely has it's quirks.
(You must be old school with that "no sympathy" mentality lol. You guys grew up ruthless.)
DOA as well due to the triangle system
Does that not look like a bug? KL grabs the open air above the character then sucks the character into a grab animation. Lazy development/design? Thats about as bad as KL's teleport vacuum grab that's sucks him the distance of a standing 1 towards his opponent to complete the grab just to give him advantage if he ports to far.
It isn't a viable pressure option if you poke in between staggers. Or duck the high jabs. Or armor. Or block breaker. Or play better footsies and not find yourself in that situation.
Dem online tactics doe.
Yeah, dude, as a Quan player, I need this. It's my only way out.
