I said this in the other thread, but this is the logic I don't understand. Do people not see that "people don't play her" because "she sucks"?? Lol I mean really. How many people played Scorpion prepatch in Injustice. Now compare that with how many played him post patch. What was the difference? The difference was, that he, get ready for it, sucked. The reality is, in a game where there's nearly 30 characters and over 80 variations, some characters are just gonna suck. Everyone can't be mid tier. Everyone can't be good.Like...literally only 2 of the suggested changes had anything to do with High Tech, but this is labeled a thread for High Tech Jacqui.
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But no, seriously, I want to say change her if she's that bad, but I look at the complaints, and then see Revolver going "I literally just want one change". Considering what's going on with the Reptile players, I kinda wanna see what's up with her more, considering nobody even really knows what the character is capable of besides the 2 people that play her.
People didn't play Skarlet, and everyone felt she was ridiculous. Batgirl, while not as unused, was pretty rare, too.Do people not see that "people don't play her" because "she sucks"??
I like the Batgirl example. It shows that an underused character can still be Top 3, while at the same time everyone from Paul to Jimmy knew how good the character was.People didn't play Skarlet, and everyone felt she was ridiculous. Batgirl, while not as unused, was pretty rare, too.
How often a character is used doesn't really mean shit other than they're not used. And who knows what top players have been experimenting with? Because more often than not, I see some top players get beat by a rarely used character (COUGHREPTILECOUGH).
I'm not saying she doesn't suck. Hell, I don't even fucking know lol. I'm just saying it's weird that you have like a bunch of people going she sucks, then that one dude who has actually proved his shit in tournament is going "I literally just want one thing changed and I'll play her, she's fine". Which is super similar to what's going on with the Reptile community.
Ehh shotgun damage is still pretty decent, and shotgun can actually play footsies in some MUs.I always find it interesting that High Tech is always the variation referenced as the biggest write-off, when Shotgun is arguably just as bad or maybe even a tiny bit worse.
In High Tech there's at least a tiny chance of wreaking havoc if you get a lot of momentum going... Shotgun doesn't even do all that well with momentum.
The change revolver wants is one that can't even be implemented lol. It would also not really address any of her significant issues, just make her midscreen damage more consistent.People didn't play Skarlet, and everyone felt she was ridiculous. Batgirl, while not as unused, was pretty rare, too.
How often a character is used doesn't really mean shit other than they're not used. And who knows what top players have been experimenting with? Because more often than not, I see some top players get beat by a rarely used character (COUGHREPTILECOUGH).
I'm not saying she doesn't suck. Hell, I don't even fucking know lol. I'm just saying it's weird that you have like a bunch of people going she sucks, then that one dude who has actually proved his shit in tournament is going "I literally just want one thing changed and I'll play her, she's fine". Which is super similar to what's going on with the Reptile community.
The only change that wouldn't help high tech a huge deal is f121 coming out on block, and that's a straight up glitch that needs to be addressed.Like...literally only 2 of the suggested changes had anything to do with High Tech, but this is labeled a thread for High Tech Jacqui.
10 point infraction for false advertisement.
Tyrant is a Jax dude through and through. I wouldn't count him as a full-on Jacqui user, period. Jr constantly has a character crisis. Sonic is Sonic.I like the Batgirl example. It shows that an underused character can still be Top 3, while at the same time everyone from Paul to Jimmy knew how good the character was.
I remember a few Top players using Jacqui early on (Tyrant, CD, Sonic, etc) and then she magically disappeared. I doubt it was because she was too amazing to play lol. Also, pulling off a win with an underused character is more likely a result of lesser MU exp than strength of the character. I see Kano getting away with murderrrrr in some matches, even against DJT yesterday, but you rarely see characters like Lao get away with it when it's reversed because everyone is used to fighting Lao's. That's actually a bigger strength than half of her movelist.
Speaking of DJT, look at those two Yomi tier lists by him and FK. They had differences, but the one thing both lists agreed on was that Goro and Jacqui were Bottom 3 lol.
I don't think Reptile is too great compared to some of these characters, but I'm not sure since there's not one Reptile in my offline scene lol. The only thing I know about Reptile, is that he's probably better than Jacqui. -.-
so much this. there are other gamplans than jump in 50/50 or +24 blockstrings til death. but somehow on tym even respected top players who should know better fail to even try developing these, but rather cry for buffs...Yeah I think she's fine, she just needs more work put in. I think she has more potential than to be just labeled low tier. That's what makes her more interesting. I'd rather her need work put in than add things to make braindead aspects to her game. I'd be playing all high tech right now tbh if it weren't for the combo bug
Wait, why wouldn't it be?The change revolver wants is one that can't even be implemented lol.
Yea I agree with that. Early tier lists are usually laughable by the time a year or two passes. I should probably be more specific too. I think FA Jacqui can hold her own fine in certain MU's. It's the other two variations that really make me say "ok what were they going for here" lol.Tyrant is a Jax dude through and through. I wouldn't count him as a full-on Jacqui user, period. Jr constantly has a character crisis. Sonic is Sonic.
And putting any sort of stock into an early tier list of a game that changes as often as it does is pretty pointless. People were saying Buzzsaw was better than Tempest still a little after the changes...look at where we are, now. Things change, realizations are made. Again, is she bad? Idk, possibly. Again, just find it odd that someone out there (who is a notable player nonetheless) has belief in the variation despite the majority. That raises questions to me.
Because it's a glitch in which the gravity scaling from 33~bf2 is taken from the original string rather than the 33 so it doesn't launch properly for combo. This has been bought up a while ago and we kinda got a 'well that might be working properly' response. All it does is make her midscreen BnBs more consistent meaning she gets like 3% damage increase.Wait, why wouldn't it be?
this is where your fault starts. jaqui does not approach, she waits to be approached and defends. what do you think charge is good for? rushdown? lol, gg.Ehh shotgun damage is still pretty decent, and shotgun can actually play footsies in some MUs.
High tech has shit all in ways of approach and her footsies are severely lacking.
You do realise she has 0 full screen presence at all right?this is where your fault starts. jaqui does not approach, she waits to be approached and defends. what do you think charge is good for? rushdown? lol, gg.
Oh, I see. Not a major change, then.Because it's a glitch in which the gravity scaling from 33~bf2 is taken from the original string rather than the 33 so it doesn't launch properly for combo. This has been bought up a while ago and we kinda got a 'well that might be working properly' response. All it does is make her midscreen BnBs more consistent meaning she gets like 3% damage increase.
Full auto still does have some glaring issues.Not everyone is Jax and Tanya with 3 viable variations lol. The last few patches helped out some of the overshadowed ones like Dualist, hat trick and ninjutsu but in general most characters have 1 go-to variation, 2 if they're lucky. Trying to say subzero sucks when you're using unbreakable is gonna fall on deaf ears, just like us saying Jacqui sucks when Full-Auto doesn't.
neither does the opponent have full screen presence when you use charge and absorb right (even though i admit absorbs startup is too high). really, i know youre a good Player, but in this thread you sound like you cant push 2 buttons right. try a different gameplan and report back to me, until then im outta here.You do realise she has 0 full screen presence at all right?
Lol. High tech Jacqui doesn't have to approach. Hahahahaha
The suggestions you make on how to play the character are ridiculous. You can't sit back absorbing projectiles all day and you can't charge either. None of this will help you win a match.this is where your fault starts. jaqui does not approach, she waits to be approached and defends. what do you think charge is good for? rushdown? lol, gg.
neither does the opponent have full screen presence when you use charge and absorb right (even though i admit absorbs startup is too high). really, i know youre a good Player, but in this thread you sound like you cant push 2 buttons right. try a different gameplan and report back to me, until then im outta here.
^ ThisThe suggestions you make on how to play the character are ridiculous. You can't sit back absorbing projectiles all day and you can't charge either. None of this will help you win a match.