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This is my billionth life cycle.
Threw up in my mouth a little bit reading this post.
Threw up in my mouth a little bit reading this post.
Erron Black is the Smoke of MKX
Nah he's still my main - he's probably still top 10.
From reading your first post, it is very clear you just don't know the matchup. You are not an above average player if you know the matchup and still cannot read and punish a tick throw or ex SG within 21122. Furthermore, saying his meterless damage is ridiculous is, well, ridiculous.
Every character in the game got safe 50/50, kind of, because all Erron's black string are punishable.
I feel like you don't understand how retarded it is that at several points in one string you can cancel into throw, sand storm, grenade, or slide. Or just finish the string and blow me up for guessing wrong. It has nothing to do with making a read its a guessing game, which is retarded. Punishing a wiffed throw is easy and that wasn't the point of or even mentioned in my first post. Every time I talk about how lop sided this match up is for Kano there's always the "you just suck, make better reads" comment. I have fought a damn good outlaw Erron Black everyday since day 1 so your gonna have to come up with something better than just saying I suck at the game.
Summoner Quan says hi.
Oh yeah, I forgot about that dude. WOOLAY!
Everytime I see the word Woolay I cry inside.
He is right about the grapple part though
It's really not that crazy, and it's erron's main dirt. Other characters get much better damage, much better 50/50 string options, much better oki, and much better pressure. I will say this one last time: it makes literally no difference what erron cancels into during the 21122 string, the mixup comes from WHEN. Then you make a read (oh I'm sorry "guess," because using braincells to deduce your opponent's tendencies is stupid) and full combo punish. I'm not going to even go into the fact that the first hit is high or that its really easy beat out with spacing. At the end of the day, just because your main has a bad matchup doesn't mean the character is broken, but the way you are complaining about it sounds like there is a lot more at work than just a bad matchup, you might just be a worse player than that erron, or you just refuse to adapt/actually learn the matchup
What grapple part? Tick throw off d3 has been removed, and 21122 is literally what differentiates EB from other characters. Let's also ignore the fact that it is full combo punishable on the correct read of when something will be canceled
I believe Erron Black is still a Top 10 Character. The reason I don't play him as much anymore is the lack of air control. Jumping attacks are very strong in this game and EB doesn't have a lot of options when it comes to this. His D2 is alright but other than his NJP in Outlaw, you don't have much. His best option is the Anti-Air Sand Bomb that has a start-up of 19F and can't be done on reaction.
You do realize reads and guesses are two different things right? Maybe you just do the same cancel at the same time over and over but any good player isn't gonna do the same thing over and over. The second you start catching on they're gonna cancel into different things at different times. And yea there's definitely better characters in the game, not sure where I said he was the best, but he's still really damn good. Its ridiculous the amount of downplaying people are doing because he got a nerf. If you think he's not that good than switch characters. Try Kano out than talk to me about having to use brain cells.
Reads and guesses are not entirely different at all, but I don't feel like trying to explain that if you don't already understand it. I am not downplaying at all - the 21122 string is extremely strong, but it can be dealt with and punished hard and its obvious that you just don't know how to. You just keep complaining about the only stand out aspect of EB's game, 21122, while ignoring the glaring holes in his game and the fact that a lot of other characters do a lot of the same things that he does but better. EB is probably top 10, but definitely not safely top 5 as you say.
Was literally just about to type the exact same thing.
