General/Other - Sonya Blade Sonya General Discussion Thread

[Tony at Home]

end in f4 dd1. Reptile won't punish you with his slide, tech roll or no tech roll. Pretty sure you recover in time to block teleports as well. Otherwise end in 2314 against teleporters.

Yeah, I need to hit the lab and test the f4 ender more where I used to use 2314.

f4 didn't really hit in alot of combos where it could have been an ender, but hopefully that has changed now.

 

[DaZengie]

Just for shits and giggles...80%.
Could probably get to 81 or 82%, but what's the point? Either there's no way of this being that practical, the opponent is dead already, or this is going to get normalized in the next patch.

 

[spliti]

Just for shits and giggles...80%.
Could probably get to 81 or 82%, but what's the point? Either there's no way of this being that practical, the opponent is dead already, or this is going to get normalized in the next patch.

Plz no patch on this

 

[skater11]

Lol that's ridiculous there's no way they are gonna leave that dmg .

 

[YoloRoll1stHit]

She needs it

 

[skater11]

Just put yourself if in the opponents situation. Y'all just started round 2/3 you guys are fighting like normal you've taken 20% or more easily. And you see demo Sonya with 3 bars...that pressure... Lol she needs it.

 

[YoloRoll1stHit]

Just put yourself if in the opponents situation. Y'all just started round 2/3 you guys are fighting like normal you've taken 20% or more easily. And you see demo Sonya with 3 bars...that pressure... Lol she needs it.

I forgot to put in my comment and u act like that? Seriously?
Using naked xray is never a good idea. And If u have meter u can break after her xray, so basically she wasted 3 bars for 32% damage, while she can normally do 32% and force a breaker without any bar

 

[skater11]

I forgot to put in my comment and u act like that? Seriously?
Using naked xray is never a good idea. And If u have meter u can break after her xray, so basically she wasted 3 bars for 32% damage, while she can normally do 32% and force a breaker without any bar

I never mentioned landing a naked X-ray?? Lol. I'm just saying the pressure it would have on the opponent knowing she can do 80 in the corner is insane. Anyways. Enough with the theory talk. There's no point.

 

[SidTheHaze]

These demolition buffs though

 

[spliti]

It should stay

 

[DaZengie]

In my opinion, it's going to get nerfed. No character in the game should have a 80% combo, and NRS will probably fix the damage scaling. Although not impossible, the situation is not as practical in a real match, especially now that Sonya got buffs on her ex moves, there's incentive to actually use meter in a combo. Regarding the 80% x-ray combo, execution is pretty tough too, and the spacing is tricky. Took me a bunch of tries to get it just right. Might want to skip the last part and just settle for an easier combo which will still end up being in the low 70s% in a real match.

I think it's a good plan to have going into round 2 or 3, but it shouldn't be your main game plan. I'd trade these buffs in any day for something more practical, like faster grenade loading time even if it's just a few frames, +frames on block strings pressure mixed with grenades, or fixing b332 mid hit box. I guess enjoy it while it lasts. Even after the damage scaling, that 80% combo will probably be around 60-70% (remember KJ's and D'vorah's nerfs? low 40s became high 30s, and 50s became mid 40s), which is more than enough to close out a round or come back from a huge life deficit.

 

[Youphemism]

Reload needs to be faster, that's the main thing I'm suggesting. Grenades not being punishable on block would be great too. If she has that then Demolition becomes perfect in my opinion, besides frags not being that useful but whatever.

 

[WidowPuppy]

OMG those Demo corner x-ray combos, dat damage!

 

[YoloRoll1stHit]

Green arrow of injustice has 80% xray combo, and with interactable setups many characters in the game can do almost 100% damage, but noone has ever complained about that.

 

[Tony at Home]

Reload needs to be faster, that's the main thing I'm suggesting. Grenades not being punishable on block would be great too. If she has that then Demolition becomes perfect in my opinion, besides frags not being that useful but whatever.

Grenades are punishable on block??

Might have to clarify this. She can detonate grenades while blocking, or even getting hit.

I don't see how frags are useless either. They do good damage.

 

[Youphemism]

Grenades are punishable on block??

Might have to clarify this. She can detonate grenades while blocking, or even getting hit.

I don't see how frags are useless either. They do good damage.

-11

Yeah but any conversion I've tried does more damage when I use stun grenades, is there any situation you for some reason use frags over stuns?

 

[Tony at Home]

-11

Yeah but any conversion I've tried does more damage when I use stun grenades, is there any situation you for some reason use frags over stuns?

Frags for naked hits. Generally when you can't convert. When I throw a frag it's almost always a far throw.

But was the block advantage of stuns changed in the patch?

She should be able to be +on block very easily even after pretty negative moves.

Prepatch she was close to being able to frametrap multiple f4's together using grenades in between.

 

[Youphemism]

Frags for naked hits. Generally when you can't convert. When I throw a frag it's almost always a far throw.

But was the block advantage of stuns changed in the patch?

She should be able to be +on block very easily even after pretty negative moves.

Prepatch she was close to being able to frametrap multiple f4's together using grenades in between.

What do you mean when you can't convert and for naked hits?

Nope just hitstun and damage changes.

How so? Fraud Blank and SidTheHaze said when they tested it they found it to be -11...

 

[SidTheHaze]

What do you mean when you can't convert and for naked hits?

Nope just hitstun and damage changes.

How so? Fraud Blank and SidTheHaze said when they tested it they found it to be -11...

its -11 if you do for instance b14 cfg w/o any gaps in between. its about +4 or +5 if you just block the grenade when its rolling on the ground already.

 

[Youphemism]

its -11 if you do for instance b14 cfg w/o any gaps in between. its about +4 or +5 if you just block the grenade when its rolling on the ground already.

Ugh but that's way too long, easily punished in that gap I reckon. Why can't we just get safe grenades with the same block advantage at all points? That and a faster reload, life complete.

 

[Tony at Home]

Sonya can detonate the grenade while being hit. Interrupts should trade in her favor. The opponent is left hanging in the air and it's an easy conversion.

I suppose an opponent could fish for a favorable trade with a d2 because Sonya can't covert off the trade that way, but an early detonation would stuff even that, although detonating early in recovery frames sacrifices that extra block advantage.

 

[SidTheHaze]

Sonya can detonate the grenade while being hit. Interrupts should trade in her favor. The opponent is left hanging in the air and it's an easy conversion.

I suppose an opponent could fish for a favorable trade with a d2 because Sonya can't covert off the trade that way, but an early detonation would stuff even that, although detonating early in recovery frames sacrifices that extra block advantage.

If the opponent just watches for a grenade to come out they can easily blow you up with armour. When your opponent doesnt have meter however it is FREE pressure/chip damage.

Characters with armored launchers give demoltion *troubles*

 

[Anbu]

Don't know if this is posted or known but hitting b14 when juggled doesn't allow the oppenent to roll. This allows for a safe reload in the corner with demolition by doing b14 reload. You can just do 2134 midscreen but sense you can't do that safely in the corner against some characters this is a nice alternative.

 

[jmt]

Just watched your vids Sid. Made me try out demo for the first time.

Gonna start learning it. These combos are fun.

 

[MsMiharo]

What do you mean when you can't convert and for naked hits?

Nope just hitstun and damage changes.

How so? Fraud Blank and SidTheHaze said when they tested it they found it to be -11...

Zoning. She zones quite well with ex ring and frags. Since you can detonate them at will you can stop them advancing + 8% and pretty much free reload