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Question - Inferno R.I.P. Inferno Scorpion

Rude

You will serve me in The Netherrealm
Demons have a very obvious animation on start up, he reaches for the skull on his belt and moves it in the direction of the demon that will come out. Low the combo starter is 28 frames start up and is -27 on block meaning even if you block it you can still roll or slide, or superman, ass attack, Trance etc from far away.

Overhead is 29 frame start up, and is also -27 but it has deceptive block stun, meaning it has zero.

Mid demon comes out in 26 frames but takes a while to actually hit the opponent. but is about -7 on block. So yes all demons are punishable on reaction by a good portion of the cast during start up, let alone on block. Demon disappears if Scorpion is hit.
Bummer
 

BloodyNights

"My kunai will find it's mark."
I do not comprehend. How is inferno anything like Noob Saibot?
He isn't anymore to be honest, Overhead and low projectiles, and the mix up during block strings that came with it, despite being able to be blocked by good players reminded me of Noob's Overhead/low projectiles from his strings lol
 

I GOT HANDS

Official Infrared Scorp wid gapless Wi-Fi pressure
Jesus christ the hypocrisy is real. Someone complains about their character being nerfed and everyone talks shit and says get over it , but you damn well when their character gets nerfed they're just as salty , they just don't make a thread about it.
Part of me agrees, part of me thinks that this thread is the definition of a pretty big overreaction

I do not comprehend. How is inferno anything like Noob Saibot?
As an MK9 Noob main, I wondered this myself. Maybe the teleport / mid demon that runs at you is similar aesthetically? Hell I dunno.

I think in terms of playstyle Possessed Kenshi is pretty close to Noob
 

I GOT HANDS

Official Infrared Scorp wid gapless Wi-Fi pressure
He isn't anymore to be honest, Overhead and low projectiles, and the mix up during block strings that came with it, despite being able to be blocked by good players reminded me of Noob's Overhead/low projectiles from his strings lol
Makes a bit more sense actually

Just like Noob Saibot :(
Join me in the campaign to get Noob back in MKX and you and me can both be happy
 

GrandMasterson

The Netherrealm beckons
I think the 214 nerf was justified. It didn't hurt Scorpion's damage that bad and Hellfire being able to jail you with 214FBC x3 was pretty dumb.

The Ninjutsu buffs make up for it. I think Scorp is pretty well balanced now.
 

BloodyNights

"My kunai will find it's mark."
I think the 214 nerf was justified. It didn't hurt Scorpion's damage that bad and Hellfire being able to jail you with 214FBC x3 was pretty dumb.

The Ninjutsu buffs make up for it. I think Scorp is pretty well balanced now.
I agree that was dumb, but why alter Inferno and Ninjitsu to do it? Inferno lost mix ups, chip, damage. One of his most damaging bnb's currently is glitched and randomly runs out of hitstun, and doing his 214>teleport in the corner randomly doesn't allow him to combo from it. They really should have just made the fireball cancel cost more stamina.
 

BloodyNights

"My kunai will find it's mark."
U sure u are NOT playing scorpion wrong?
Btw Kitana fans randomly miss in the corner too
Kitana is my secondary, and was my original character I picked up. I'm sure I'm not playing him wrong. Also her's is consistent, Scorpion's I can't replicate it just seems to be about 50% of the time or so that it just doesn't work in the corner, I need to test it more.
 

exflyingbooty

This dream has a sad ending
Inferno scorpion has one of the worst vortexes because it's all standing resets with hard to see reset points half them time(besides the typical back demon one). (I played a really really good one not the typical online scrub). Trust me, your character isn't dead and far from it.
 

BloodyNights

"My kunai will find it's mark."
You're doing 21~spear too late, this situation happens from plenty of juggles.
Just to clarify I am hitting with the spear when it decides to run out. It's after I've speared them and go in for a jip. Is that what you mean?
 

BloodyNights

"My kunai will find it's mark."
Inferno scorpion has one of the worst vortexes because it's all standing resets with hard to see reset points half them time(besides the typical back demon one). (I played a really really good one not the typical online scrub). Trust me, your character isn't dead and far from it.
You should play me sometimes, I may be salty, but I don't think I'm half bad, with Scorpion or Kitana...or most of the cast lol
 

DanableLector

UPR DanableLector
So, in an attempt to normalize Hellfire Scorpion. Inferno and Ninjitsu variations took a hit to the 214 string.

However Inferno Scorpion took the major blunt out of all three variations imo. And he received such an unjustified nerf that it's insane. Inferno Scorpion no longer has a block string that he can use a special from safely. 214>Mid Demon, and 214>OH Demon can both be hit out of with just about any standing poke into a full combo. Which completely nulls his chip game down, forcing him to basically only use B121 for the entirety of his up close game.

To make matters worse his damage took a hit, and his combos are now harder to perform.

So tell me what am I supposed to do with him now? Zone with specials that have 28 frames of start up and are -27 on block? Pray and go super yolo at all times. I know people complained about Raiden's universal 6 frame mid being turned into a high in his other variations. But this fix to hellfire completely destroyed Inferno.

Yes I'm salty, and yes I'm sure I'll be on the salt report. ;~;
Sorry about your main :-( I didn't realize you were on tym, we played some sets a while back. You really helped me in the scorpion match up. Bad things happen to good people.
 

Slips

Feared by dragons. Desired by virgins.
I can make a video showing that he can, from any range on screen.

Mileena can trololol roll through any demon on reaction, as can Sub-Zero slide through any demon summon on reaction. Also the 214 string did more than just chip damage, it was a hitconfirmable string that lead into an overhead, a low, a mid demon, however now the only thing I can do from it is 214, DB3F and get the hell out of dodge. I don't know what Inferno offers over the others against Quan Chi, I'd actually assume that Ninjitsu would be the best.

And from what I understand you don't play Inferno, so how would you know how much that string means to Inferno in the first place. The very threat of the aftermath made the opponent's freeze, allowing him to get away with not cancelling 214 at all, and jumping back in while they were still hesitating. Now I can't be safe up close as every other string he has besides B121 and 123 are not safe on block.
Like I said, Kano is probably one of the few exceptions. Maybe Kenshi's bf1 or Jax's fireball spam as well but those are both highs. Most characters can't even think about throwing a projectile against Inferno Scorp, that's my main point.

The low demon you cannot react to, especially if you are using feints. I know the frame data says it's 28 frames but I doubt that is correct. The animation is not telegraphed at all either. By the time you see him grab the skull it's too late.

Regardless if you think it's reactable or not, if you know they are going to use a Mileena roll or a Sub Zero slide to get passed demons, you can meterburn the low minion for better tracking to give you a full combo. And I don't see how 214 provided a mixup. The low minion is much faster than the overhead. The mixup is easily fuzzyabe.

In fact, your 214~DB1 that you're so upset about is actually punishable by most of the cast. Even pre-patch. It's at least -7. You should've be doing the teleport cancel to be truly safe anyway.

You'd think someone who mains Inferno would already know all this stuff.

EDIT: Taking a closer look though, there is definitely some extra scaling going on with his low minion. That sucks. Another phantom nerf it looks like. So the meterless damage I thought he had appears to be gone. Brutal. Knowing that, Inferno is probably the worst now. RIP Inferno Scorp lol.. But not because of 214>DB1 for God's sake. ;)
 
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