General/Other - Bojutsu Bojutsu Kung Jin After-Patch Damage Report (5/14/2015)

[WakeUp DP]

LoL Lianghubbb logic:

95% of players can't deal with character X = Character X is fine, everyone is just bad.

This is especially ironic coming from the guy who makes youtube $$$ with videos in which he drives people insane by spamming cheap shit that 95% of them can't deal with (especially online). Deathstroke got nerfed and now King Jim got normalized and will probably receive further nerfs.
And you dare come here and bitch about DS and KJ nerf when you were part of the problem to begin with?

Only scrubs use the terms "spam" and "cheap".

 

[NoobHunter420]

Only scrubs use the terms "spam" and "cheap".

LBSH Kung Lao is hella cheap

 

[onetrickpony]

Only scrubs use the terms "spam" and "cheap".

You have sociolinguistically proven that I'm a scrub... fine
Doesn't invalidate my point though!

 

[RainMK9]

They nerf us but can't Mileena do 40% meterless??

 

[RainMK9]

This. IMO Scorpion is way more of an issue than pre-patch Kung Jin. Scorpion can eat a bag of dicks.

Agreed but you didn't hear me calling for a nerf

 

[nfdsallwd]

They nerf us but can't Mileena do 40% meterless??

her overhead is also 30 frames and she has no hitconfirmable lows iirc

 

[RainMK9]

her overhead is also 30 frames and she has no hitconfirmable lows iirc

Ah that I didn't know. Anyone know when patch will go live on xbox? Are they waiting for after the ESL tournament Sunday?

 

[Eldriken]

They nerf us but can't Mileena do 40% meterless??

Jacqui can do 41% meterless in the corner, but it's only against the male cast. =(

 

[EOTL]

KItana can do 40% as well. But does it matter really? KJ is still doing 35% which is still top 5 meterless damage.

 

[RainMK9]

True, i'm most likely will still main him since I'm so comfortable already. But I do want to challenge my self and learn new people, any good suggestions?

 

[Clark L.]

I can give two shits about the damage really. His damage did get hit decently hard but my issue is his damage and his lack of pressure options. Before I had to make them guess until they can d1 punish me. Now I hit 11, do either overhead or low and that's it. The problem is other characters can do what I do but better. Better pressure and better damage now. Kung Jin is still really good but he got hit way harder than Quan Chi which is not cool

Clearly you didn't watch the video, here:

 

[Asodimazze]

True, i'm most likely will still main him since I'm so comfortable already. But I do want to challenge my self and learn new people, any good suggestions?

I am using Goro and Ferra Torr as alt characters. They are a lot of fun and play very differently from Jin, give them a try

 

[Northern Slasher]

Agreed but you didn't hear me calling for a nerf

I never said you did?

 

[Kroaken]

I can give two shits about the damage really. His damage did get hit decently hard but my issue is his damage and his lack of pressure options. Before I had to make them guess until they can d1 punish me. Now I hit 11, do either overhead or low and that's it. The problem is other characters can do what I do but better. Better pressure and better damage now. Kung Jin is still really good but he got hit way harder than Quan Chi which is not cool

just look at the Kung Jin subforum.

Let that answer your question lol

I still think he'll be really good. I hope to get to play some sets against you soon.

 

[RainMK9]

I never said you did?

I never said you did? It was a general statement at all the Kung Jin whiners

 

[Mint]

Did they nerf his range a little bit too? I find myself whiffing quite a bit on jump in punches lately.

 

[RainMK9]

Did they nerf his range a little bit too? I find myself whiffing quite a bit on jump in punches lately.

i believe the jip cant hit crouching opponents anymore, I believe

 

[HarmTheHomeless]

i believe the jip cant hit crouching opponents anymore, I believe

An overhead not hitting someone crouching? What

 

[EOTL]

An overhead not hitting someone crouching? What

Only when you do it instantly off the ground. It was a universal nerf to instant jumping attacks.

 

[HarmTheHomeless]

Only when you do it instantly off the ground. It was a universal nerf to instant jumping attacks.

Oh god, that's a dumb idea. If they block any instant air shit you're negative by a fuck ton.

 

[Jay Rupp]

So, uh, why use Kung Jin now anyway? Mixup sucks, damage sucks. All he has is range, and only on his jump in/neutral jumps.

#downplaying
For your sake I hope you're trolling.

 

[bettyswallaux]

he still seems stupid good lol

You the f/t player?

 

[Charybdis]

You are talking about good stuff, but I never said he is unplayable or something, just that he doesn't have enough be top anymore.
Scorpion, Raiden, Quan Chi, Erron, D'vorah, Kang and others look much better than Jin now. He is not top 5 and probably not even top 10

Kang? Liu Kang, better than Kung Jin? How?

 

[EOTL]

Kang? Liu Kang, better than Kung Jin? How?

Don't know if Liu Kang is better than KJ but liu Kang's run stop pressure in Dragon Fire is no joke.

 

[Charybdis]

Don't know if Liu Kang is better than KJ but liu Kang's run stop pressure in Dragon Fire is no joke.

I play Liu. He's got good pressure in DF, agreed. It's been nerfed massively and subtly since release though. Liu's lost about the same amount of pressure that KJ has. The difference is, KJ has literally every other tool in the book. Liu has mediocre zoning in FF and still good pressure in DF. That's it