Question - Hollywood Cassie nerfs

[AK Stormthegates]

 

[MrSoloLobo]

You have:

B1
Overhead/Low mixups
A 5 frame reversal for NO meter.
D4
Untouched Spec Ops
Great walk/run speed
Good air normals.

I think you'll manage...

I think what most bothers me is that her overhead low mixup is now unsafe and f34 is now useless. Why would we even play this variation now. That's why I liked it. It had an overhead option that was 0 on block. Yes she has some of that stuff you listed but doesnt change that they took away the best thing about this variation. I guess you can argue that ex nutpunch is the best but like I said losing a unique string to the variation that was overhead and 0 on block sucks.

 

[Dizzy]

Is there even a weekend that a major isnt happening? Toryuken, CB, MWC, TCW are all the next 4 weekends off the top of my head. Its the TOs responsibility to have a plan of action for when the consoles they will be using are last updated.

Small aside as well, calling f34 useless is laughable. F33 can be punished by about 1/3 of the cast and does 14%. F34 on the other hand, does 18% and I dont know of anyone who can punish it besides reptile. Many characters/variations would beg to have f34.

 

[Peckapowa]

Isn't b124 supposed to be neutral anyways?? Her pokes and cartwheel will still beat out almost everything. And You shouldn't be playing Hollywood you should be playing spec ops anyways

 

[Emperor Eevee]

I think what most bothers me is that her overhead low mixup is now unsafe and f34 is now useless. Why would we even play this variation now. That's why I liked it. It had an overhead option that was 0 on block. Yes she has some of that stuff you listed but doesnt change that they took away the best thing about this variation. I guess you can argue that ex nutpunch is the best but like I said losing a unique string to the variation that was overhead and 0 on block sucks.

Took the words right out of my mouth.

 

[Scott The Scot]

There goes my 37 % meterless

After patch:
242, 4, 21u4, 4~db2, ji3, 123~db2, RUN~123~bd3 (43%)

 

[NoobHunter420]

the issue aren't the nerfs, the issue is right before a tournament lmao.
sucks to be a tournament player.

 

[Emperor Eevee]

the issue aren't the nerfs, the issue is right before a tournament lmao.
sucks to be a tournament player.

There's a small universal issue with the nerfs though, and it's about it F34 -8 on block.

 

[C9-Keiji]

Injustice was last gen. Current gen consoles dl and install updates automatically even while off.

Then how come mine didn't? I have to patch once I got home and turned mine on and I could of continued into the application without the update. You can also revert patches on consoles its been done before.

EDIT: If you truly cant revert patches on next gen after installed your probably just fucked cus I doubt randomly after patches there will be a numerous amount of unpatched systems specifically for a tournament so if this is the case get in the lab cus theres nothing you can do about it complaining about it wont fix it tho.

 

[DOOMSDAY-15RUS-]

Please tell me her current 34% midscreen meterless, and her previous 50% midscreen meterless.

Yes, you do need to relearn Cassie because every single one of her optimised corner combos had f34 in it. Now all her previous combos are not only less damaging, but completely impossible.

jump punch; 2,4,2; F2,1 ; DB+2; run ; F2,1 ; nut cracker
enjoy 33% meterless midscreen


And just for info guys, when u do 2,4,2 on block it's something like -6 on block and if u think opponent will try to punish it you just do DB+2 (EX) and full combo punish

 

[MrSoloLobo]

jump punch; 2,4,2; F2,1 ; DB+2; run ; F2,1 ; nut cracker
enjoy 33% meterless midscreen


And just for info guys, when u do 2,4,2 on block it's something like -6 on block and if u think opponent will try to punish it you just do DB+2 (EX) and full combo punish

We know you can break 30% midscreen off of 242 but that's a bad string to use outside of a punish (which has to be in your face since stand 2 has no range at all) but you're not getting above 30 with her normal tradition starters. And please share this godlike 50% midscreen we used to have.

 

[DOOMSDAY-15RUS-]

We know you can break 30% midscreen off of 242 but that's a bad string to use outside of a punish (which has to be in your face since stand 2 has no range at all) but you're not getting above 30 with her normal tradition starters. And please share this godlike 50% midscreen we used to have.

it's don't work now after the patch, after jump in 2,4,2 many people try to punish it and i just counter punish them with ex DB+2, with 50/50 starters u can still do around 30% meterless so it's ok

 

[Shaazzyam]

bring your own xbone setup it prob still won't be patched by the tournament rolls around

problem solved breh

 

[Durango]

This game got a balance patch today?

 

[Scott The Scot]

it's don't work now after the patch, after jump in 2,4,2 many people try to punish it and i just counter punish them with ex DB+2, with 50/50 starters u can still do around 30% meterless so it's ok

I would still like to know this 50% midscreen combo that us Cassie mains didn't know about but you did. Please, share it with us. We're interested. Whether it works or not. Even though the only thing they really changed was the string that was used in the corner.

 

[MK_GDROM]

Really NRS, a day and a half before a major you pull this shit?

A list of documented and undocumented nerfs, forcing only one character to relearn both their bnb and their playstyle from scratch?

On a character without any competitive tournament wins?

Eh, I'm not good at fighting games and am trying to get better and that insta frame nerf really hurts Reptile. I'm so used to doing jip immediately after doing njp that now I'm whiffing jips left and right. I understand how much that shit sucks, as I am now picking up Kano for now.

 

[juicepouch]

Small aside as well, calling f34 useless is laughable. F33 can be punished by about 1/3 of the cast and does 14%. F34 on the other hand, does 18% and I dont know of anyone who can punish it besides reptile. Many characters/variations would beg to have f34.

QFT

Please, salty cassies, take other characters in the lab and try to punish it. You act like it's -50 w/ no pushback at all and full combo punished by any attack in the game

 

[DOOMSDAY-15RUS-]

I would still like to know this 50% midscreen combo that us Cassie mains didn't know about but you did. Please, share it with us. We're interested. Whether it works or not. Even though the only thing they really changed was the string that was used in the corner.

check youtube, i saw a good 10 vid of cassie combos, personally i am only focused on brawler and now after the hollywood nerf brawler is better for sure because ends always with a good knockdown and there an opportunity after jump and kick to ex air grab to full around 30% combo

 

[DOOMSDAY-15RUS-]

only one thing i can complain it's why sub zero who is more zonner character is faster( footsies, run) then like pure rushdown characters like cassie or reptile. And when he block me in corner with his clone i try to jump back in corner to punish him with this jump kick into EX air grab and this bitch punch me with his far and fast anti air overhead even when he is behind his clone

 

[Wrath0594]

and now after the hollywood nerf brawler is better for sure because ends always with a good knockdown and there an opportunity after jump and kick to ex air grab to full around 30% combo

Uh... No.

 

[Scott The Scot]

check youtube, i saw a good 10 vid of cassie combos, personally i am only focused on brawler and now after the hollywood nerf brawler is better for sure because ends always with a good knockdown and there an opportunity after jump and kick to ex air grab to full around 30% combo

I'd prefer if you linked me, so we're on the exact same page. There never was a 50% midscreen combo, so please stop upplaying her.

 

[Shaazzyam]

Is there even a weekend that a major isnt happening? Toryuken, CB, MWC, TCW are all the next 4 weekends off the top of my head. Its the TOs responsibility to have a plan of action for when the consoles they will be using are last updated.

Small aside as well, calling f34 useless is laughable. F33 can be punished by about 1/3 of the cast and does 14%. F34 on the other hand, does 18% and I dont know of anyone who can punish it besides reptile. Many characters/variations would beg to have f34.

im sure people would think that argument is sound, provided of course you look at tools in a vaccum

 

[STRYKIE]

I'm just thinking out loud here, and IDK if this has already been suggested, but should the tournament forego the patch until the XB1 version is also patched? XB1 only players can't get acquainted with any of these changes at all.

 

[Zoidberg747]

I'm just thinking out loud here, and IDK if this has already been suggested, but should the tournament forego the patch until the XB1 version is also patched? XB1 only players can't get acquainted with any of these changes at all.

If there is a way for them to not use the patch then yes. The only way to do that is to have the PS4s not connected to the internet until the tournament though...

 

[STRYKIE]

If there is a way for them to not use the patch then yes. The only way to do that is to have the PS4s not connected to the internet until the tournament though...

I see. I only got my PS4 a week or so before MKX launch so I'm still not familiar with all of it's bells and whistles, but mine prompts me before I download any updates. If the TEOs have strictly tournament tailored PS4s then there's a good chance they haven't set it to do otherwise.