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Blind speculation! Which variations look like poopoo??

Vithar

Evil but Honest!
I think they did poor showing of Spectral Ermac ... such Variations need to be presented by a Pro so people can understand it.
 

Pterodactyl

Plus on block.
Pretty sure that's not the case, if EX teleports can be advantages on block (like MK9 Scorpion for example). That would mean you have to guess after the teleport which will hit you their next move which puts you in a lose lose situation.



Reptile never was fully invisible before, atleast not in MK9, so hard to tell.



 

Immortal

Blind justice....
Yea sure in practise mode for fun. Show me that done in a tournament. Oh wait, you wont, coz it never happened. But yea i forgot about the EX version, coz nobody used it in tournaments.

Anyway i still thinks it's gimmicky at best and won't see much use in tournaments. Time will tell who is right.
 

Pterodactyl

Plus on block.
Yea sure in practise mode for fun. Show me that done in a tournament. Oh wait, you wont, coz it never happened. But yea i forgot about the EX version, coz nobody used it in tournaments.

Anyway i still thinks it's gimmicky at best and won't see much use in tournaments. Time will tell who is right.
No one used it in tournaments because it cost meter and Reptile had a ton of other attacks that became amazing with meter while invisibility was a flat buff and free 50/50's, which are both good but not better than a giant slow forceball or an armored dash.

It doesn't cost any meter now, so it's a meterless flat buff and free 50/50's.
 

Monox1de

Mortal
I think that we will be surprised by some variations. Most of the variations that look good now will more than likely turn out to be good in the end. It's the variations we think look terrible now that will surprise people when they turn out to have crazy tech or resets or how absurdly well they counter other specific characters/variations.
 

MadPropz101

"I still got it...but not much of it"
Most variations look like poopoo. I respect that they are trying to add new things, but most of the returning characters have the exact same moves and the variations don't bring many new things between each other. I don't care though, still can't wait to get my hands on the game and try all of them.
 

HGTV Soapboxfan

"Always a Pleasure"
Most variations look like poopoo. I respect that they are trying to add new things, but most of the returning characters have the exact same moves and the variations don't bring many new things between each other. I don't care though, still can't wait to get my hands on the game and try all of them.
I'd disagree. For as many characters that are really similar to older versions, there are ones that are really different. Sonya is really different compared to mk9 overall, liu kang has at least his dark light variation that's really unique, I'd say cage with his stunt double, etc etc. I'd say that the variations have allowed nrs to keep their classic characters while adding a lot of new ideas for them, which is awesome.
 

MadPropz101

"I still got it...but not much of it"
I'd disagree. For as many characters that are really similar to older versions, there are ones that are really different. Sonya is really different compared to mk9 overall, liu kang has at least his dark light variation that's really unique, I'd say cage with his stunt double, etc etc. I'd say that the variations have allowed nrs to keep their classic characters while adding a lot of new ideas for them, which is awesome.
As i saw in Liu Kang's dualism variation, you actually have to channel the spell in order to heal. I just don't see how that's viable and i don't see many people playing that variation over the other two, especially flame fist which is probably gonna be the most popular. I'm also not feeling Sonya's variations, it would at least be better if the drone flew in from offscreen instead of just spawning above your head, and the one where you're drone spawns bombs for you is just weird as hell...
 

STB Sgt Reed

Online Warrior
I strongly disagree with that.

There are dozen or more characters in which have some sort of tracking moves - teleports, projectiles etc... They will give no shits about Reptile invisibility. In fact not only they will give no shits about it but Reptile player gonna screw himself even more since he too won't see hes character after using inv.

Same goes for spectral Ermac, what good is levitate if half of the cast have teleport, tracking moves or some sort of aerial projectiles? Makes no sense.
You don't necessarily have to be able to see your character to know what you're doing... I (and plenty of other reptile players) can do his elbow dash bnb combo while completely invisible. Once you have your timing down... you don't need visibility.

Same goes for setups and footsies... it can be done.
 

HGTV Soapboxfan

"Always a Pleasure"
As i saw in Liu Kang's dualism variation, you actually have to channel the spell in order to heal. I just don't see how that's viable and i don't see many people playing that variation over the other two, especially flame fist which is probably gonna be the most popular. I'm also not feeling Sonya's variations, it would at least be better if the drone flew in from offscreen instead of just spawning above your head, and the one where you're drone spawns bombs for you is just weird as hell...
Okay the liu kang one I think the orbs will definitely be useful at least so that variation will be used. For sonya I think we need to get our hands on her to see what the hell is up, she looks weird but I wouldn't say they look useless at all, for all we know she could be great.
 

Slymind

Warrior
I'd disagree. For as many characters that are really similar to older versions, there are ones that are really different. Sonya is really different compared to mk9 overall, liu kang has at least his dark light variation that's really unique, I'd say cage with his stunt double, etc etc. I'd say that the variations have allowed nrs to keep their classic characters while adding a lot of new ideas for them, which is awesome.
This, they could've very well just took what was there from MK9 add one or two moves(or just tweak older ones) and call it a day and no one would've complained(because the variations would never be known to begin with), yet they took upon the task to bring this new system, and of course you can't expect for it to be the epitome of balance right out of the gate, but sure is a solid idea.

Some variations are bound to be niche(not to say impractical compared to others), nontheless, the idea sure is nice and it's one of the things that surely don't want to see go away in future installments.
 

MadPropz101

"I still got it...but not much of it"
Okay the liu kang one I think the orbs will definitely be useful at least so that variation will be used. For sonya I think we need to get our hands on her to see what the hell is up, she looks weird but I wouldn't say they look useless at all, for all we know she could be great.
I didn't say it's useless, the drone is good for mixups and could serve in similar ways as Batmans trait from Igau. But Liu Kang's channel can be easily interrupted, pretty much instantly with any projectile. I guess it could be useful against some characters but we just have to see it in game.
 

EmoScoobyDoo

Maybe I'll have something to say ... Probably not
No one used it in tournaments because it cost meter and Reptile had a ton of other attacks that became amazing with meter while invisibility was a flat buff and free 50/50's, which are both good but not better than a giant slow forceball or an armored dash.

It doesn't cost any meter now, so it's a meterless flat buff and free 50/50's.
Ex Dash didn't have armor in MK9 hell it could be interrupted between hits if the opponent was familiar with Reptile.
 

HGTV Soapboxfan

"Always a Pleasure"
I didn't say it's useless, the drone is good for mixups and could serve in similar ways as Batmans trait from Igau. But Liu Kang's channel can be easily interrupted, pretty much instantly with any projectile. I guess it could be useful against some characters but we just have to see it in game.
I'm assuming by channel you mean the healing move (maybe that's what it's called, idk lol) which in that case whether or not it's useful doesn't make or break the variation and I think the dark orbs will definitely be useful so that variation will be unique from other versions of lk and still be viable. I don't want to get too far into theory fighting but I think it's safe to say the variation will be useful.
 

ShArp

Dedicated Broly main
As Raiden MK9 main Im simply not interested in his any other variations except Displacer. Which basically is MK9 Raiden on cocaine with those enchanced teleports.
Teleport is his signature and best move, and this is the Only variation that still has it. Other variations just doesn't seem good enough tho.

Oh and.... Reptile overall looks really shitty. Sry.
 

MadPropz101

"I still got it...but not much of it"
I'm assuming by channel you mean the healing move (maybe that's what it's called, idk lol) which in that case whether or not it's useful doesn't make or break the variation and I think the dark orbs will definitely be useful so that variation will be unique from other versions of lk and still be viable. I don't want to get too far into theory fighting but I think it's safe to say the variation will be useful.
When i say channel i mean that you have to stay in place while the animations going for it to do an effect, and it can be interrupted with any hit. But yeah, it probably serves a purpose if it's in the game, at least i hope so.
 

HGTV Soapboxfan

"Always a Pleasure"
When i say channel i mean that you have to stay in place while the animations going for it to do an effect, and it can be interrupted with any hit. But yeah, it probably serves a purpose if it's in the game, at least i hope so.
Well for the orbs they will be useful after a knockdown at the very least...
 

THTB

Arez | Booya | Riu48 - Rest Easy, Friends
invisibility is always blah because the player controlling the character also loses track of where they are.
Until you play OGs and South Americans in the older MKs. >_>

They seriously don't lose track, and developed tactics to ensure they know where they're at. And that was back when the camera didn't move according to distance. With the camera movement, it's even easier.