Blind_Ducky
Princess of the Sisterhood
I know that. The top 8 placer thing had nothing to do with my argument. It was more of a condescending joke because murks argument is literally just "top 8 placer said it"
So difficult to ignore it when they're so damn loud. These garbage ass bane players need a reality check. They need to level the fuck up. It's fucking sad when someone who isn't even part of their character community is better than them with their character.
Nobody thinks Bane is bad, though. I don't even think ANYONE puts him outside of the Top 10 lol.
That literally had nothing to do with what I said. Im talking about murks dumbass logic for why the MU isnt 2-8.
I think they already discredit themselves when they claim that 16bit losing to max all the time doesn't prove anything about the matchup.
16 Bit "getting his ass bodied by Max" is still more proof for the match-up being 7-3 (though I agree results alone are not always an indicator) than anything to prove the match-up is 6-4 because we literally haven't seen ANYTHING that says it's 6-4. You disregard 16 Bit losing to Max every week yet your argument on why it's 6-4 is based on an online that Ra Helios played?
I mean I usually do just ignore it but I woke up and saw all this cancerous shit between this thread and the Ra helios one. Like I basically ran out of fucks. Anyway I'm Gona go pay off the evil within so I'm going to leave the thread now.
You still haven't said a single word about the match-up. All you say is "Ra Helios and BioHazard said X and Y." Fine, I respect both their opinions, but you do realize the majority (including other Catwoman and Bane players, two of which have literally ran thousands of offline sets) disagree, right? So I mean when you're in the minority, the burden of proof is on YOU. It's up to you to prove why the match-up isn't as bad as almost everyone else believes, and in that regard, you've yet to offer anything of substance. Now please, for fuck's sake try to understand my point.
wasn't it determined he was a match away from top 16/32 not top 8?
You pushing it stop it!!!!
Please come to America and say all that and play me with that free joker in a ft10 mm. @Qwark28. Fuck you mean iq? Don't get ahead of yourself.
Thats all I been trying to say bruh. Maybe "they" will listen to you. I don't see how some deal with this. Im ready to swing on somebody smh lol. Too many egos and arrogance.
You're still free. Thats all the entertainment I need. But im more annoyed thn mad
Dude, Max and 16 Bit have explained why the match-up is that bad countless times, and with far more in depth arguments.
This doesn't make sense. Nobody is saying "fuck you if you don't believe it." The match has been described in detail by Bit numerous times. You are choosing to listen to a person that lists superficial things about the MU and who does not have experience against a top Bane player.
I has nothing to do with having a mind of your own, 16 Bit and Max have explained it multiple times and they have evidence to back up their claims. (Sorry cowboy I have to use u on this one, no offense tho haha). Anyways, I remember cowboy said that shang beats liu kang 6 4, so I'm like (no way he loses to shang tsung). So we talk about it for a while and that didn't go anywhere really. So we got to play at MLG dallas, and I was able to win 3 0 vs his shang with my liu kang. Now he may or may not have had his mind changed after that, but at least there would be some kind of concrete evidence to back up my claim that liu goes 5-5 with shang tsung. Conclusion: Ra helios is going to have to go to a tournament and prove his case, otherwise he is just going to get ridden off because talk is talk, "actions speak louder than words".
Tournament matches don't decide a legitimate mu number imo. Ra helios going to a tournament won't define his point on a mu but it will determine his level as a player. I heard/read someone say that nobody besides 16bit plays a bane of max's level right? Well thn isn't it fair to say that no one has played a CW of helios's level? The whole debate that was going on was about a mu number being solidified by ONLY 16bit and max and that they're playing the mu at the highest level so no one else's opinion (ra helios) matters simply because of tournament placings in which lead to me using biohazard as an example because he disagrees that the mu is that bad and he is also a top 8 placing bane player but that got shut down simply because his bane isn't on max's level or any bane according to some. Idc about why it is this or that. My ONLY disagreement comes from another top bane player's opinion.
Just like mayweather. Its amazing how that works-_-
tournament matches/ long sets play a big part in matchup discussions. You think daigo (best ryu period in sf4 series overall) would feel that ryu has problems vs dhalsim if he hadn't ran into Filipino champ, YHC mocha, and other top dhalsim players at American majors, Japanese majors, Topanga League, and etc.? Arguments aren't very credible without concrete evidence backing them up, that is just how things go with arguments. If a sports analyst says a team has (bad defense) but they don't provide any statistical evidence actually backing that up, what do you think people are going to think/ say about him?
