Very Important anti Manhunter teleport tech. A Must Read

[smokey]

Ive not had online since this game came out so my first time online last night i fought a MMH and blew him up doing this. as soon as he caught on and started doing reg tele its punishable on block. As shazam you spend half the match walking forward so its pretty straightforward to be punishing any yolo teleports. The problem being with shazam is that MMH doesnt have to get in to win, so he shouldnt have to teleport. Circus nice find !

 

[Circus]

I managed to block the teleports by holding forward but I couldn't even punish with d1. Is it lag or is it safer after the patch?

Its only -8 so you most likely have to go into a D1 canceled into a special. Some characters will get better punishes than others.

 

[Circus]

At the 8 way run tourny on Tuesday DarthArma was still talking about how the overhead teleport is safe. Then yesterday at wnf godspeed was telling the stream it was safe too.

This needs to become common knowledge already. Red reaper was abusing the overhead teleport like crazy last night and no one contested it.

Could someone make another thread or something with a video so CrimsonShadow could tag it to the front page?

 

[Kiko]

I don't understand or too lazy to read opinions. How do you specifically avoid MMH teleport? It's ridiculous BS. Holy f**k.

 

[Circus]

I don't understand or too lazy to read opinions. How do you specifically avoid MMH teleport? It's ridiculous BS. Holy f**k.

Dumbed down version:

Walk forward against overhead teleport.

 

[carrion4worm]

when you're opponent says "hey i'm gonna do a overhead tele, immediately start walking forward! lol!

 

[Circus]

when you're opponent says "hey i'm gonna do a overhead tele, immediately start walking forward! lol!

Smh. You realize how long it takes for an overhead teleport to startup? Test it before you make cute comments.

 

[Red Reaper]

At the 8 way run tourny on Tuesday DarthArma was still talking about how the overhead teleport is safe. Then yesterday at wnf godspeed was telling the stream it was safe too.

This needs to become common knowledge already. Red reaper was abusing the overhead teleport like crazy last night and no one contested it.

Yeah.. If people don't punish me. I'm going to keep abusing it. =)

Same thing with the (low) Martian Grab. If people don't punish it I don't need to hit konfirm and gimmicks open up.

PS: I was playing a lil sloppy last WNF because I was focused on Arrow since I knew he was getting buffed. And the Orbs looking bigger weirded me out big time. I felt like I was throwing out jelly fish and it freaked me out.

 

[carrion4worm]

don't worry about me. YOU read the comments on your own thread, ive posted several. I can blow your tech up..it should read "ifyou see a noob abusing naked OH teles, use this tech. teles are situational, like everything else in the game. I place an orb in front andno walky walky for you. IF you walk forward and block from behind, I've got framed moves that will beat almost anything in the game.
Seriously, read my comments. You don't realize who you are talking to if you don'tthink I've tested almost everything in my game.

that is all...

 

[Circus]

Resurrecting this thread.
I haven't been on the forums for a bit and was wondering... why in the HELL is no one doing this against MMH still?

STILL?!?! Who does it take to do this so that people finally realize how crucial it is in the matchup? It's ridiculously easy too, I'm seriously blown away that its taking this long to become a regular thing.

This'll just probably be ignored for another 6 months again.

 

[Zoidberg747]

If you do that too much they can just normal tele and blow you up.

Only sure fire way is MB F3/B3, but walking forward can at least make them think about using it.

 

[Odoyle]

Resurrecting this thread.
I haven't been on the forums for a bit and was wondering... why in the HELL is no one doing this against MMH still?

STILL?!?! Who does it take to do this so that people finally realize how crucial it is in the matchup? It's ridiculously easy too, I'm seriously blown away that its taking this long to become a regular thing.

This'll just probably be ignored for another 6 months again.

I did it to Krayzie at SCR but went for the B3 after the MB FTD instead of just D1 FTD D1 MB FTD etc etc and dropped it

 

[ryumanjisen]

If you do that too much they can just normal tele and blow you up.

Only sure fire way is MB F3/B3, but walking forward can at least make them think about using it.

Exactly. If you're reflexes are decent, you can MB F3/B3 on reaction.

Besides, MMH's teleport is not his best tool.

 

[STB Shujinkydink]

Resurrecting this thread.
I haven't been on the forums for a bit and was wondering... why in the HELL is no one doing this against MMH still?

STILL?!?! Who does it take to do this so that people finally realize how crucial it is in the matchup? It's ridiculously easy too, I'm seriously blown away that its taking this long to become a regular thing.

This'll just probably be ignored for another 6 months again.

its just risky is all. he has too many other options to mess you up if you try that consistantly. Plus he can place an orb in front of you so you cant do that. Might be good for a once a match type thing though. Still havent tested it

 

[Circus]

I realize there are setups to prevent a block from the other side. But EVERY mmh fight I watch has at least 5 overhead teleports where this could have been done.

I REALLY do think you all need to test it yourself. It's concept is scary but its actually very very easy. The punish is an 8frame window to do a D1 or stand1 into whatever you want.

It doesn't matter if his teleport isn't his best tool. This is still information that needs to be known about the matchup. Of course he could start doing the normal teleport but in the end HE is taking the bigger risk if done without an orb for setup.

 

[Circus]

its just risky is all. he has too many other options to mess you up if you try that consistantly. Plus he can place an orb in front of you so you cant do that. Might be good for a once a match type thing though. Still havent tested it

You don't have to be holding forward so I don't see how you think it's risky. You have plenty of time to react when you see the teleport startup animation. So unless there is a huge obvious orb in your face doing this has much more reward for the risk. Even if he starts throwing in random regular teleports it just means the MMH is taking bigger risks than you that could get punished harder.

I seriously suggest you test this out as soon as you can.

 

[ThaShiveGeek]

You don't have to be holding forward so I don't see how you think it's risky. You have plenty of time to react when you see the teleport startup animation. So unless there is a huge obvious orb in your face doing this has much more reward for the risk. Even if he starts throwing in random regular teleports it just means the MMH is taking bigger risks than you that could get punished harder.

I seriously suggest you test this out as soon as you can.

Okay Let's bump this and see what it does. If it still falls on deaf ears fuck it. You did what you had to. Let it rock bro.

 

[The Gabriel]

Resurrecting this thread.
I haven't been on the forums for a bit and was wondering... why in the HELL is no one doing this against MMH still?

STILL?!?! Who does it take to do this so that people finally realize how crucial it is in the matchup? It's ridiculously easy too, I'm seriously blown away that its taking this long to become a regular thing.

This'll just probably be ignored for another 6 months again.

Because this is still perhaps the dumbest thread in the Ares forum. I don't know how else to say it - if you think walking forward is the answer to MMH, you're an idiot. Was "walk forward" your answer to pre-patch Scorpion as well?

 

[Circus]

A big "suck it" to all the morons saying this isn't viable to do against a good Mmh.

Jupiter vs Theo Mlg.

Theo did it twice only and just the fear of him doing it again made Jupiter Yolo regular teleport and get punished hard.

FINALLY someone on steam does it against him. Ive been doing/saying this for months.

 

[VenomX-90]

I mean if you are gonna "Punish" someone.

 

[Scoot Magee]

A big "suck it" to all the morons saying this isn't viable to do against a good Mmh.

Jupiter vs Theo Mlg.

Theo did it twice only and just the fear of him doing it again made Jupiter Yolo regular teleport and get punished hard.

FINALLY someone on steam does it against him. Ive been doing/saying this for months.

Haven't people used this as an option forever?

 

[Circus]

Haven't people used this as an option forever?

YES! Thats what ive been saying since last year! Just read a bit of this thread though and see the crazy amount of people who think its a stupid strategy.

Because this is still perhaps the dumbest thread in the mmh forum. I don't know how else to say it - if you think walking forward is the answer to MMH, you're an idiot. Was "walk forward" your answer to pre-patch Scorpion as well?

...... I think this example sums it up and thats just this page alone.

 

[carrion4worm]

tough matchup regardless...

 

[mVp_Ryon]

It's not new but nice post , thing is blocking it this way you can punish him just with a 7 frame move while he's airborne ( wich for DS means 20% at best with f23xxAR ).

With my characters i know i can just react with jump forward and b3 for a max damage punish.

you can get a 36 from two bars with deathstroke when u block by walking forward. I main him and hv been searching for optimum punish from that. try: after block before he touches down, d1 which is a 7 frame starter. so juggle with d1 12ffR2 323 12df3 you shud get a 36 percent. If u are near a 3d bounce, u can simple f3(R1) and continue with your strings or start with d1 f3(R1) to add 2 or percent damage to ur combo. wud have sent u a video buh Ghana Internet is a shitty.

 

[mVp_Ryon]

If you play deathstroke or flash, u can simply d2 mmh's overhead teleport. The timing is very strict but practise makes perfect.