Match-up Discussion Vak's Hawkgirl Match-Up Chart

[Vak Phoenix]

hg-cw is 6-4 borderline 7-3 flash is 6-4 borderline 5-5 we don't lose on the ground on knockdown vs flash a spinning mace is the shutdown to his movement , if he wakes up hes taking a mace to the face if he jumps hes taking an air mace combo if he just gets up hes dealing with our pressure , both cw and flash evades are no good because we always follow with mb which will hit and put them down to deal with our next assault .
we own the interactables in both mu's to add to our combos . flash can't remove any and cw can only remove a few (bomb plant tv etc )

THANK YOU

 

[kaseyk]

Sorry I am slightly confused here. When can Shazam teleport below her? During flight? By mark you mean we all harp on HG's wakeup?

i say hg-shazam is 6-4 only thing he has against us is a good aa but god hg's don't just fly . teleport is easy to scout and again the spinning mace is a good freeze skill , tp release and hit , torpedo we win , his lightning bolt ... dash 3 times do a we2 and jump it lol that shit needs a speed buff

 

[WITNESS]

@kaseyk and @Vak Phoenix we will play tonight cuz iam really tired of you two saying flash loses

 

[Vak Phoenix]

@kaseyk and @Vak Phoenix we will play tonight cuz iam really tired of you two saying flash loses

sure but put some butter on it

 

[kaseyk]

@kaseyk and @Vak Phoenix we will play tonight cuz iam really tired of you two saying flash loses

what system u on witness ?

 

[TheSpore]

I'm sorry but all you who just think that HG straight beats Flash is out of it.

 

[Vak Phoenix]

I'm sorry but all you who just think that HG straight beats Flash is out of it.

quit downplaying... and i never said flash is like grundy..

 

[WITNESS]

what system u on witness ?

xbox or ps3 pick your poison (preferable xbox)

 

[TheSpore]

quit downplaying... and i never said flash is like grundy..

I'm not downplaying at all I play against one of the best Flash players in the community every week. I know what I am talking about.

 

[Vak Phoenix]

I'm not downplaying at all I play against one of the best Flash players in the community every week. I know what I am talking about.

so do i.. trust me

 

[Akromaniac27]

Wow she is one of the most balanced characters MU wise in the game. I really wish that HG/HQ matchup wasn't 6-4, up guns doesn't have enough range to hit that stupid bird out of the air, and her d1 and d2 make it hard for me to get in.

Its 5-5 AT BEST for HG. HQ has the upper hand in that MU. She will always have more meter than HG, always dish out more damage, and she can keep her out. Up shots are only part of the equation. You still have MB cupcakes, can blow up every one of her wake ups, and have MB play doctor to add the extra damage while she tries to force her way in again

 

[WITNESS]

so do i.. trust me

and who is this?

 

[RiBBz22]

I remember we played a decently long set on PSN and the score was pretty even. I personally think it's 5-5

I don't remember, but yeah I think it isn't too bad for Frost. Maybe a slight disadvantage, but nothing to freak out over. What is your PSN name, we can play again sometime.

 

[Vak Phoenix]

I don't remember, but yeah I think it isn't too bad for Frost. Maybe a slight disadvantage, but nothing to freak out over. What is your PSN name, we can play again sometime.

u never play against me... ugh

and who is this?

perfectshinigami and babyseal

 

[WITNESS]

perfectshinigami and babyseal

 

[kaseyk]

Its 5-5 AT BEST for HG. HQ has the upper hand in that MU. She will always have more meter than HG, always dish out more damage, and she can keep her out. Up shots are only part of the equation. You still have MB cupcakes, can blow up every one of her wake ups, and have MB play doctor to add the extra damage while she tries to force her way in again

hg-hq i agree 5-5 but cupcakes can be avoided at max range and air guns don't go to far

 

[TopTierHarley]

Its 5-5 AT BEST for HG. HQ has the upper hand in that MU. She will always have more meter than HG, always dish out more damage, and she can keep her out. Up shots are only part of the equation. You still have MB cupcakes, can blow up every one of her wake ups, and have MB play doctor to add the extra damage while she tries to force her way in again

I'm still new to that MU but from what I've played it seemed pretty tough, I just have to play it more I guess

 

[Akromaniac27]

hg-hq i agree 5-5 but cupcakes can be avoided at max range and air guns don't go to far

The thing is, its to keep her out. You whiff gunshots like crazy just to build the meter you need, and when she starts getting too close, dish out the cupcakes. If it misses, no need to worry, you can fix yourself again. If it hits, all the better

 

[kaseyk]

xbox or ps3 pick your poison (preferable xbox)

it'll be ps3 i'll hit you up when i can jam

 

[YOMI Trepound380]

Its 5-5 AT BEST for HG. HQ has the upper hand in that MU. She will always have more meter than HG, always dish out more damage, and she can keep her out. Up shots are only part of the equation. You still have MB cupcakes, can blow up every one of her wake ups, and have MB play doctor to add the extra damage while she tries to force her way in again

ummm me and saltface disagree entirely. he things hg hq is mostly in hgs favor and we played tht mu ALOT

 

[kaseyk]

The thing is, its to keep her out. You whiff gunshots like crazy just to build the meter you need, and when she starts getting too close, dish out the cupcakes. If it misses, no need to worry, you can fix yourself again. If it hits, all the better

if i go under your cupcakes your eating 38% plus whatever interactable is within range for me to otg you with or being wall carried .

 

[Akromaniac27]

ummm me and saltface disagree entirely. he things hg hq is mostly in hgs favor and we played tht mu ALOT

I'd like to play it then. Outdated I guess, but we spoke of that MU some time ago saying the opposite, so yeah. And I have yet to face a HG that showed it was in her favor

 

[YOMI Trepound380]

i got soooo much to say but ill either post in here or make my own thread after i play a match of league

 

[Pig Of The Hut]

Aquaman: 5-5
Ares: 6-4
Bane: 5-5
Batgirl: 4.5-5.5
Batman: 5-5
Black Adam: 5-5
Catwoman: 6-4
Cyborg: 3-7
Deathstroke: 3-7
Doomsday: 5-5
Flash: 6-4
Green Arrow: 5-5
Green Lantern: 4-6
Harley Quinn: 6-4
Joker: 6-4
Killer Frost: 6-4
Lex Luthor: 4-6
Lobo: 6-4
Martian Manhunter: 4-6
Nightwing: 6-4
Raven: 4-6
Scorpion: 7-3
Shazam: 5-5
Sinestro: 3-7
Solomon Grundy: 7-3
Superman: 5-5
Wonder Woman: 5-5
Zatanna: 5-5
Zod: 3-7


Advantage: 9
Even: 10
Disadvantage: 9

I think ur list looks great

 

[Vak Phoenix]

I think ur list looks great

thank you, you only say that cuz i put down 3-7 on both zod and sinestro. jk

if i go under your cupcakes your eating 38% plus whatever interactable is within range for me to otg you with or being wall carried .

exactly... if hg get rooftop.. everyone is fucked.

i got soooo much to say but ill either post in here or make my own thread after i play a match of league

please do so

if you watch my stream... i abuse the status with it... you'll see. im mainly now on ps4 so its easier to stream.

Its 5-5 AT BEST for HG. HQ has the upper hand in that MU. She will always have more meter than HG, always dish out more damage, and she can keep her out. Up shots are only part of the equation. You still have MB cupcakes, can blow up every one of her wake ups, and have MB play doctor to add the extra damage while she tries to force her way in again

as i said... the only "trouble" in hg vs hq mu are the cupcakes.. and mb b3. i see it as 6-4.. so do most of hg players.