My Personal Opinion of Killer Frost w/ MU Chart

[Rickyraws]

The Killer Frost MU for me is and always has been as follows:

http://www.mmcafe.com/tiermaker/injustice/index.html?tc=ya0-trf27oc96pic726a8dl95b8x5tkhg7n38i746o6radn6afad62n26gd57emdcgo47vk06kgt7ddzo089dzljef76cgf73v9qfzdwixihhogqopcuijglj7bghp-bk5-naThe truth about injustice

As for the so called 'bad match ups' you guys act like before the match you can't threaten your opponent with physical violence.

 

[fr stack]

agree on the grundy match up

 

[fr stack]

The Killer Frost MU for me is and always has been as follows:

http://www.mmcafe.com/tiermaker/injustice/index.html?tc=ya0-trf27oc96pic726a8dl95b8x5tkhg7n38i746o6radn6afad62n26gd57emdcgo47vk06kgt7ddzo089dzljef76cgf73v9qfzdwixihhogqopcuijglj7bghp-bk5-naThe truth about injustice

As for the so called 'bad match ups' you guys act like before the match you can't threaten your opponent with physical violence.

now thats wot i like to see haha grundy in dem top tiers !

 

[SneakyTortoise]

One thing I hate more than match up numbers is when people use decimals in match up numbers.

The match up number is a prediction of what the outcome would be if two players, at the highest skill level, played their respective characters against each other in a set of 10 games.

The score can not be 5.5-4.5. It's either 6-4 or 5-5.

If people want to say "oh but it can be slightly in their favour but not massively" that's exactly what 6-4 is, it's only a difference of one game going the other way in a set of 10 and isn't really a two game difference as it appears (imagine the score is 5-4, instead of the game that makes it 5-5 going to the player behind it goes to the player in the lead).

 

[@MylesWright_]

Hahahaha, honestly sometimes your posts are boring as fuck, but this time you made me laugh . It's so funny that you live in that alter dimension world where DD beats KF and she is bottom to mid tier at best. Please continue to amuse us

I never said Doomsday beats Killer Frost but it is not a 7-3. The reason behind Killer Frost 7-3ing Doomsday and Sinestro is exactly the same as the reason for Aquaman 7-3ing Batman. If they can't do anything they want and actually have to change their game-plan slightly in the match and maybe adapt they immediately lose badly

 

[Ra Helios]

Nothing because i don't think that.

Nothing because i don't think that.

Well I must read your post wrong then.

 

[KH StarCharger]

Still up-playing KF vs CW I see lol . Congrats at Civil War btw dude. I'll watch those archives later.

 

[teh_kingdunch]

I never said Doomsday beats Killer Frost but it is not a 7-3. The reason behind Killer Frost 7-3ing Doomsday and Sinestro is exactly the same as the reason for Aquaman 7-3ing Batman. If they can't do anything they want and actually have to change their game-plan slightly in the match and maybe adapt they immediately lose badly

Yes DD has to change his game plan, but to what? He has nothing to threaten KF. Throw that can be reacted to, d3 for crap dmg that leads to nothing, body splash that can be mb f3ed. Also you said we need meter for parry, why? We can always just block the regular venom and punish. If he has meter for mb venom, just a regular parry is enough of a trade in our favor, he wastes meter to gain nothing. He has to respect our zoning, free meter for us, daggers into iceberg traps, free trait charge that compliments our parry even more, great hit advantage strings and great d1 to keep his trait in check. I've played the DD match-up locally and online so much and discussed it with DD players and all agree on 7-3 in KF's favor. But wait, maybe you have a godlike DD that is able to hold his own vs KF? Please do tell of your secret to make a KF afraid when going against DD.

 

[Eldriken]

Yes DD has to change his game plan, but to what? He has nothing to threaten KF. Throw that can be reacted to, d3 for crap dmg that leads to nothing, body splash that can be mb f3ed. Also you said we need meter for parry, why? We can always just block the regular venom and punish. If he has meter for mb venom, just a regular parry is enough of a trade in our favor, he wastes meter to gain nothing. He has to respect our zoning, free meter for us, daggers into iceberg traps, free trait charge that compliments our parry even more, great hit advantage strings and great d1 to keep his trait in check. I've played the DD match-up locally and online so much and discussed it with DD players and all agree on 7-3 in KF's favor. But wait, maybe you have a godlike DD that is able to hold his own vs KF? Please do tell of your secret to make a KF afraid when going against DD.

This is pretty much all that will ever need to be said about the MU.

 

[Breakin Wordzz]

i think ares is at the least 5-5 if not in his favor. why even play kf when you can play bat girl anyways?. there is no reason to play a worse version of batgirl.

 

[teh_kingdunch]

i think ares is at the least 5-5 if not in his favor. why even play kf when you can play bat girl anyways?. there is no reason to play a worse version of batgirl.

Why play Ares when you can play Zatanna? There is absolutely no reason to play a worse version of Zatanna. Seriously tho, don't post stuff like that, it really hurt us KF players and it's not true at all.

 

[@MylesWright_]

Yes DD has to change his game plan, but to what? He has nothing to threaten KF. Throw that can be reacted to, d3 for crap dmg that leads to nothing, body splash that can be mb f3ed. Also you said we need meter for parry, why? We can always just block the regular venom and punish. If he has meter for mb venom, just a regular parry is enough of a trade in our favor, he wastes meter to gain nothing. He has to respect our zoning, free meter for us, daggers into iceberg traps, free trait charge that compliments our parry even more, great hit advantage strings and great d1 to keep his trait in check. I've played the DD match-up locally and online so much and discussed it with DD players and all agree on 7-3 in KF's favor. But wait, maybe you have a godlike DD that is able to hold his own vs KF? Please do tell of your secret to make a KF afraid when going against DD.

Sweep leads to no set-ups (lol), throw reacted to (lol), body splash mb f3d when they do it a range where d2 would probably be successful against it anyway(LOL). Sounds like some real good Doomsday match-up experience a definite 7-3..

 

[Rickyraws]

i think ares is at the least 5-5 if not in his favor. why even play kf when you can play bat girl anyways?. there is no reason to play a worse version of batgirl.

......are you serious?

 

[teh_kingdunch]

Sweep leads to no set-ups (lol), throw reacted to (lol), body splash mb f3d when they do it a range where d2 would probably be successful against it anyway(LOL). Sounds like some real good Doomsday match-up experience a definite 7-3..

Oh boy, you are a tough one to convince or you just leave in denial. I'll let you tell me the oki setups that work against KF and please amaze me. Just because you can't react to throws doesn't mean it's not possible. You can always block body splash if you can't mb f3 it, cmon think for a change. I fear some good DD came and spanked you real hard, so now you are convinced it's an even MU. I can only suggest you practice more, learn how to punish and react to his options and be patient, the victory will come to you. Good luck.

 

[Madog32]

Sweep leads to no set-ups (lol), throw reacted to (lol), body splash mb f3d when they do it a range where d2 would probably be successful against it anyway(LOL). Sounds like some real good Doomsday match-up experience a definite 7-3..

/sigh

 

[@MylesWright_]

Oh boy, you are a tough one to convince or you just leave in denial. I'll let you tell me the oki setups that work against KF and please amaze me. Just because you can't react to throws doesn't mean it's not possible. You can always block body splash if you can't mb f3 it, cmon think for a change. I fear some good DD came and spanked you real hard, so now you are convinced it's an even MU. I can only suggest you practice more, learn how to punish and react to his options and be patient, the victory will come to you. Good luck.

I can't be asked discussing with terrible killer frost players who simply refuse to listen to reason. Just continue on in this imaginary world wherein Killer Frost is a viable Top 5 character and theory fighting is real

 

[xInfra Deadx]

Sweep leads to no set-ups (lol), throw reacted to (lol), body splash mb f3d when they do it a range where d2 would probably be successful against it anyway(LOL). Sounds like some real good Doomsday match-up experience a definite 7-3..

 

[xInfra Deadx]

I can't be asked discussing with terrible killer frost players who simply refuse to listen to reason. Just continue on in this imaginary world wherein Killer Frost is a viable Top 5 character and theory fighting is real

The denial is real.

 

[EMPEROR_JUPITER]

I agree with MMH beating KF, could be worse but for now 6-4 MMH

 

[Briggs8417]

Sweep leads to no set-ups (lol), throw reacted to (lol), body splash mb f3d when they do it a range where d2 would probably be successful against it anyway(LOL). Sounds like some real good Doomsday match-up experience a definite 7-3..

What...the...fuck...are you on dude? Are you going to sit here and tell me throws can't be reacted to on some real shit? Sweeps lead to absolutely nothing in this matchup because you have at least 2 to 3 options at a time to blow up any setups we might try to do, and you're MB F3 argument is you proving yourself wrong because that just means she has a meterless option to deal with yet another one of his.

 

[Red Reaper]

I agree with MMH beating KF, could be worse but for now 6-4 MMH

Don't do it... Just say "5-5 until further notice" or mention a Gap in Skill.

 

[HoneyBee]

One thing I hate more than match up numbers is when people use decimals in match up numbers.

The match up number is a prediction of what the outcome would be if two players, at the highest skill level, played their respective characters against each other in a set of 10 games.

The score can not be 5.5-4.5. It's either 6-4 or 5-5.

If people want to say "oh but it can be slightly in their favour but not massively" that's exactly what 6-4 is, it's only a difference of one game going the other way in a set of 10 and isn't really a two game difference as it appears (imagine the score is 5-4, instead of the game that makes it 5-5 going to the player behind it goes to the player in the lead).

Maybe the advantage is so slight that putting it at 6-4 is just too big. You could always say 11-9 or 13-7 if you really hate decimals that much. But there is definitely a difference if you think about a FT20. A 5.5-4.5 leads to a 11-9 whereas a 6-4 would theoretically lead to a 12-8.

 

[@MylesWright_]

What...the...fuck...are you on dude? Are you going to sit here and tell me throws can't be reacted to on some real shit? Sweeps lead to absolutely nothing in this matchup because you have at least 2 to 3 options at a time to blow up any setups we might try to do, and you're MB F3 argument is you proving yourself wrong because that just means she has a meterless option to deal with yet another one of his.

Sorry for Doomsday not being able to just maul killer frost like every character and maybe having to think. Thinking in a match-up warrants a 7-3

 

[RiBBz22]

i think ares is at the least 5-5 if not in his favor. why even play kf when you can play bat girl anyways?. there is no reason to play a worse version of batgirl.

Man, I will just go straight to you next time I need to know something! Thanks for the awesome tip!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Briggs8417]

Sorry for Doomsday not being able to just maul killer frost like every character and maybe having to think. Thinking in a match-up warrants a 7-3

What does thinking have to do with having no options? Sorry that you don't know how to parry shoulders or d1 trait activation. OH or deal with sweep...his only low...oh oh oh or mb f3 body splash...or d2 body splash...oh yeah or tech throws on reaction.