Fred Marvel
It's actually Freddy Marvel
i really only have 2 changes id make and thats moving black adam up 1 space, and raven up 2 good list 
That's the point of this, to tell me why I'm wrong. And I did say I wanted to change a few, I just felt Green Arrow was a bit better. His zoning might not do a lot of damage but it's annoying, and he has an unavoidable super reset after 111 on hit. But they're all good characters obviouslyYeah because Raven, Grundy, NW and Hawkgirl have more bad match ups than Green Arrow.
That's the point of this, I want to see why I'm wrongNot making fun of you but this is what you are gonna get in this thread. Just saying.
If you are Ok with it then by all means. I know some ppl in TYM get butthurt of comments, just was giving you are warning of whats to come.That's the point of this, I want to see why I'm wrong
GRUNDY ISNT THAT BAD DAMMIT
i think green arrow definetly gets slaughtered by
Just curious, why do you think GA does well against Flash? I thought Flash was well built against zoning reliant characters? GA strings kind of suck from what I hear so if anyone could abuse that I thought it would be Flash.
You know, I don't play that many but of the ones I have played....HER VORTEX PISSES ME OFF. And I'm a BG main so that's saying something. Lobo has high damage output which is why he's the best low tier but he doesn't have great options against zoners, or great safe meterless moves etc etc
Ares' damage isn't horrid but his zoning kinda is. He kinda craves meter and his mixups aren't the greatest, his overhead's a bit slow. He's ok but in comparison not really :/
Oh yeah I know, me having an opinion as a part of the fgc? How rude of me
I know, but in comparison though....
Their trait's though, and seriously? Martian is easier to pick up than Batgirl... Teleport, zone, bf3, profit
Not yet anyway...
I don't think you are... At least not that much. This generally seems to be the perception of where characters place with arguable changing of a few characters. It's just too early to have anything set in stone. For example Zod can move more towards the middle since more and more he has tech being discovered for him at least that is how I see it. Same for Grundy, I cannot fully explain it as I am not a Grundy player but grundy's damage/trait/tech etc being brought up may move him up more... Lobo's damage output and approach I think put him above characters like Cyborg or Joker, I am not sure why he is considered "low". Maybe Lobo same tier as Shazam?
I wish Scarecrow was in this game rather than just a cameo on a stage transition.Yeah because Raven, Grundy, NW and Hawkgirl have more bad match ups than Green Arrow.
I feel like Lobo just doesn't have the same get-in as Shazam since Shazam at least has a teleport, Lobo has to get trait out to keep a zoner in his place or use his dash or even mb hook charge but it's all a bit risky imo. Lobo players though may prove me wrong
if you fuck up and get trapped in the corner ww is a nightmare, but midscreen, iazbs and pistol mixups, backdashes milk for trait seems to work wonders
NW better than Deathstroke and Raven and KF better than Superman? Damn... but you have a right to your opinion I'm not going to say 'you are wrong' because you might be right who knows?
