Incredibly difficult logic problem.

[RockTravHardpl8z]

I'm stuck on before I even ask these three guards which road leads to what, I'll always get 2 BA 1 Da or 2 Da 1 BA.

 

[Pan1cMode]

I'm stuck on before I even ask these three guards which road leads to what, I'll always get 2 BA 1 Da or 2 Da 1 BA.

That's the trick!

Updated OP with one last clue (it's a big one). I'll post the answer when I get back from work later tonight.

 

[xInfra Deadx]

This thread taught me that most of tym is unable to fully read the op.

Even then, the question doesn't get any easier...

 

[Doombawkz]

This thread taught me that most of tym is unable to fully read the op.

Whatever lol I had it right until he made the guards unable to point

 

[roosTakk]

Whatever lol I had it right until he made the guards unable to point

You did not have it right. You just disregarded the obvious rules of the question and answered another question that isnt challenging.

 

[Akromaniac27]

Ask yes or no questions. Ask one, is the sky blue? Ask the other, (gesture to a tree), is that a tree? And after ruling out their responses, ask the final question

 

[roosTakk]

I'm stuck on before I even ask these three guards which road leads to what, I'll always get 2 BA 1 Da or 2 Da 1 BA.

Hey someone who actually used some logic..there is hope

 

[Doombawkz]

You did not have it right. You just disregarded the obvious rules of the question and answered another question that isnt challenging.

Except I did have it right, as the obvious rules only said I needed to ask one question of each to ascertain the answer with the risk of being lied to. He only put in the second clause after a few people found solutions through gestures.

 

[Doombawkz]

Ask yes or no questions. Ask one, is the sky blue? Ask the other, (gesture to a tree), is that a tree? And after ruling out their responses, ask the final question

Actually this kinda works, but the third guard fucks it up lol. If you get the truth teller and the liar as the first 2 guards, then the third guard may lie to your last question or not, which makes the answer incorrect.

 

[Pan1cMode]

Ask yes or no questions. Ask one, is the sky blue? Ask the other, (gesture to a tree), is that a tree? And after ruling out their responses, ask the final question

You don't know what their answers mean though. They answer Da and Ba.

 

[Mr. Mileena]

You simply ask "Are you a liar?"


The truthful guard will always say no

The guard lying will say no, but when he actually is a liar. He will say no, therefore he is still lying to you.
The random guard will always say no, because if he's telling the truth, he will say no. If he decided to lie, he will want to trick you, and not tell you he's a liar.

The liar can't answer yes because then he's not lying.
The truthful one will always answer no

This way you can find out what Da and Ba mean since they all will answer the same way

 

[RockTravHardpl8z]

You simply ask "Are you a liar?"


The truthful guard will always say no

The guard lying will say no, but when he actually is a liar. He will say no, therefore he is still lying to you.
The random guard will always say no, because if he's telling the truth, he will say no. If he decided to lie, he will want to trick you, and not tell you he's a liar.

The liar can't answer yes because then he's not lying.
The truthful one will always answer no

Ok, but where is the conclusion on which road you'll take.

 

[Euphoric]

You simply ask "Are you a liar?"


The truthful guard will always say no

The guard lying will say no, but when he actually is a liar. He will say no, therefore he is still lying to you.
The random guard will always say no, because if he's telling the truth, he will say no. If he decided to lie, he will want to trick you, and not tell you he's a liar.

The liar can't answer yes because then he's not lying.
The truthful one will always answer no

This way you can find out what Da and Ba mean since they all will nswer the same way

Guard 2 is random, it can be Yes or No. And you don't know what Da or Ba specifically means as Yes or a No.

 

[AK Black Preon]

Then you asked all of them that...now you're out of questions... but you don't know they all answered the same

 

[Mr. Mileena]

Guard 2 is random, it can be Yes or No. And you don't know what Da or Ba specifically means as Yes or a No.

If you read the question, it says he will answer truthfully or falsely , not yes or no.


By asking the question are you a liar, EVERYONE will say NO.

Because you know there is one TRUTHFUL person, so all of them will say NO.

If the random guard chooses to be truthful, he will say NO.
If he chooses to lie, he will say NO, he's not a liar, but that's the lie right there!

 

[Euphoric]

If you read the question, it says he will answer truthfully or falsely , not yes or no.


By asking the question are you a liar, EVERYONE will say NO.

Because you know there is one TRUTHFUL person, so all of them will say NO.

If the random guard chooses to be truthful, he will say NO.
If he chooses to lie, he will say NO, he's not a liar, but that's the lie right there!

But than that doesn't solve which path you got to take!

 

[Pan1cMode]

Guard 2 is random, it can be Yes or No. And you don't know what Da or Ba specifically means as Yes or a No.

Guard two will randomly answer truthfully or falsely. His answer itself will not be random.

Mr. Mileena is correct in this instance. This will elicit what Da and Ba mean. However, you have to use the next two questions to determine which path to go down.

EDIT: Although I would amend the question because the random person can truthfully answer, yes I am a liar if he is in the truthful state (cause he still has the capacity to lie).

 

[Euphoric]

We should do this every week, and have the answer revealed on Sunday, I can see this becoming a tradition of TYM, it's fun.

 

[RockTravHardpl8z]

Guard two will randomly answer truthfully or falsely. His answer itself will not be random.

Mr. Mileena is correct in this instance. This will elicit what Da and Ba mean. However, you have to use the next two questions to determine which path to go down.

EDIT: Although I would amend the question because the random person can truthfully answer, yes I am a liar if he is in the truthful state (cause he still has the capacity to lie).

Hold on, how can the guards be sequenced. Assign numbers on guards doesn't solve the problem, does it?

 

[EMPEROR PRYCE]

ive gotten as far as @Mr. Mileena i have an idea but still trying to work it out lol

 

[Ratchet-Fabulous]

I didn't even understand the problem.

 

[input]

Guard two will randomly answer truthfully or falsely. His answer itself will not be random.

I'm not sure what you mean by this, as I seem to interpret both statements as contradictory to one another.

 

[Mr. Mileena]

please dont post yet im thinking hard

 

[RockTravHardpl8z]

Guard x
Guard y 's answers -----> 2Ba/1Da or 2Da/1Ba -----> Path Death/Path Glory
Guard z

I took last clue basically tells us to disregard all seemingly influential variables, random guard, lie and truth. A common link will solve it.
@Pan1cMode

 

[Mr. Mileena]

I would ask them all, "If I wanted to be rich, would the other guards advice me to take the left path?

(If left is the safe path to take)
The truthful one would always answer NO (meaning the others would advise me to take the wrong path, right) because they would lie and tell me to take the right direction.
The liars would say NO (because the truthful one would say yes it is the left one, but the liars would say no to fool you), because the truthful one would tell them the left path, but they don't want you to know that.

In this case, they all answered either Da or Ba, meaning the left path is safe.

Or if the correct path is the right one in the long run, and you ask the same question

The truthful one would say YES (because he is letting you know they want you to die)

The liars would say NO( because the truthful one would say YES, but they trick you into thinking the truthful one is the liar!)

So if you think the left lane is the correct choice, ALL MUST SAY DA or BA as a whole.

If you think the left lane is the correct choice, and you have one DA and one BA or a mix of both, then take the opposite path!!!

All same answer = safe path

different anwers= change the direction based on how you worded it (if you said right, go left, if you said left, go right_

@Pan1cMode I know i got it right now