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Fuck you for even thinking it's not worse than this. >_>
Fuck you for even thinking it's not worse than this. >_>
I figure this is pretty hard for GL because I vs'd a damn pretty good GL yesterday as Zatanna and got a perfect.
Yeah I'm curious as well. Straight laser rapes zatanna
Im sure the matchup is not that 1 dimensional though...
You would think, but just because of straight laser zatanna cant zone whatsoever. It's nothing new that zatanna gets raped upclose by superman. normally, zatanna can counter zone by teleporting behind and punishing. well straight laser has damn near no recovery so he can punish teleport attempts it mistimed. even if teleports are timed correctly, zatanna doesn't get a punish. I played this MU thoroughly w @Rebelo pocket superman and we came to that conclusion. Straight laser rapes zatanna. Period.
do you mean his heat vision (the ground angled one) or his heat zap?
This is why when I play Superman, I choose a map that'll be in my favor like Ferris Aircraft. His spamming straight lasers on the left side can be punished by the swinging interactable then caught with puppet master and he can get punished on the right side by the rockets, knocking him down and giving you a chance to either get in close, trait up or MB fire kiss.
In that case, yeah, he's pretty hard to get around because of his straight laser but with a perfectly timed teleport, he can be punished for it. His mobility also plays a factor in it just like with Wonder Woman or any other character with an air dash.
Zoning game is in zatanna's favor.
If he's doing nothing but spamming straight lasers, duck, trance
All of her teleports have 23 frames of recovery but if she MB a teleport, it has 0 recovery frames
that's fair, but I don't think a supes player worth his salt is just gonna sit there chucking heat zap when he knows you can tele at any time. interesting. What was everlast doing/trying to adjust to your zat?
Her frame data is not correct.
Incorrect frame data... Fucking NetherRealm lol
Seriously doubt it. Me and @Rickyraws (a very competent KF player) have ran this MU several 100 matches. Trance on block gets punished fullscreen w iceberg. So rings become the only zoning option, regular ring on block fullscreen gets checked by iceberg. KF has to respect mb ring tho, but who doesnt? Slide and iceberg makes trait impossible in this match. basically, zatanna cant zone. however, she can counter zone w teleports and levitate at the highest point dodges daggers and iceberg.
While I wouldn't go so far as to say this is an extremely bad MU for Zatanna, I agree, it seems against Frost, there's a lot you have to get past before you can even get anything started. I will say that Zatanna's zoning, her levitate and her jump attack...I think it's her jump 3? Where she does the splits in the air?
You're forgetting that straight laser has a huge startup window where you can puppet master him before he laser comes out.
Not only that, but if Supes does f23 breath pressure frame perfect in the corner, she can actually duck under the next f2 and whiff punish (I block high low high to make this scenario happen). This forces Supes to move forward a few frames before using the next f2 enabling her the neutral jump it. So yeah, Zatanna keeps Supes more honest than most characters. Of course Supes can use f3 instead of another f2 to switch things up.