Match-up Discussion Joker Matchup Discussion

[rehti]

Another thing I noticed is you never J1. I know it can be MU specific but yeah, not a single J1 in 3 games. Not saying its good or bad, just saying I didn't see it used once.

 

[Qwark28]

J1 has very situational use.

 

[StevoSuprem0]

I would only ever use j1 as an air to air, but alot of the time I just use a really early crowbar. J1 has more active frames and is probably the better option, but j3 is a bit safer if the read is wrong and they stay grounded because you'll catch them with it and will be at a slight advantage on block I think, or at least be safe. If the spacing is right, I will go for a j1 on the air to air read, but I think even then it's better to just go for a d2.

 

[Qwark28]

Anyone up for xbl?

 

[OnlineRon91]

Anyone up for xbl?

I can play, add me

 

[Qwark28]

If I lose, I don't know the matchup, nobody plays Joker, you're the second I've played #kappa

 

[rehti]

I wanna watch it.

 

[StevoSuprem0]

Qwark, record it with your potato.

 

[Qwark28]

I need time to set up my potato

 

[Qwark28]

Potato recording.

 

[Qwark28]

Potato out of space and battery

 

[StevoSuprem0]

Get a better brand of potato. I recommend Idaho.

 

[OnlineRon91]

Lmao just noticed ya talking on here. Qwark is getting away with murder.

 

[OnlineRon91]

Good games Qwark. As one sided as it was, I did learn a lot of things in that short session.

 

[Qwark28]

Good games Qwark. As one sided as it was, I did learn a lot of things in that short session.

GGs, don't bother AAing much online, when I AA its always because 90% of my attention shifts to a jump startup animation, applies to most characters except floaters.

 

[OnlineRon91]

I've yet to make a full transition from my SF4 experience, been playing that game since the first iteration and it's just a natural reaction for me to want to AA

After fighting your Bane I had to hop onto training mode to figure out when he crosses up or not, and this IS a match up discussion so let me post it here,

After Bane knocks you down with double punch, his jid3 will cross-up. You can punish this with wake-up flower using reverse input, as in fb2. You cannot punish with d2.
After Bane knocks you down with body press, his jid3 will not cross-up. You cannot punish this with wake-up flower, he will hit you. You can punish this with d2.

At the heat of the moment I couldn't figure out when he was crossing up and every time I tried to wake-up flower, you kept hitting me so I stopped trying after awhile, even against double punch knockdowns.

Hope that helps anyone playing Bane, my apologies if this was common knowledge xD

 

[The PantyChrist]

Ooohh Bane is a fun character. I've actually been interested in learning what he can do to set up a cross up jd3

 

[StevoSuprem0]

You uploading the set Qwark? Or did you not record any of it due to battery/storage issues?

 

[Qwark28]

You uploading the set Qwark? Or did you not record any of it due to battery/storage issues?

I'll only upload with Ron's permission, I don't like uploading stuff without consent, I got about 23 mins of footage.

 

[StevoSuprem0]

I'll only upload with Ron's permission, I don't like uploading stuff without consent, I got about 23 mins of footage.

OnlineRon91.
He's probably not gonna care, but good look.
I wanna see more of your midscreen mannerisms since the crowbar buff. Watching old footage, I keep wondering why you do certain things, then I remember it wasn't worth using outside of mixups at sweep distance... lol.

 

[Qwark28]

OnlineRon91.
He's probably not gonna care, but good look.
I wanna see more of your midscreen mannerisms since the crowbar buff. Watching old footage, I keep wondering why you do certain things, then I remember it wasn't worth using outside of mixups at sweep distance... lol.

TBH if you got time to throw out a 24f crowbar you got time to do a J3

 

[StevoSuprem0]

TBH if you got time to throw out a 24f crowbar you got time to do a J3

Agreed... to a point. But yeah, crowbar has setups and combo potential now, and I don't think it did in any of your footage that I've watched.

 

[OnlineRon91]

Pfft I dont care lmao it was like what? 38 to 3? lmao

Thanks for the consideration though Qwark, go for it

 

[StevoSuprem0]

Pfft I dont care lmao it was like what? 38 to 3? lmao

Thanks for the consideration though Qwark, go for it

That's about how I did when he and I fought back in the day. Ugh, I hate playing online anymore. Can't do it.

 

[OnlineRon91]

If anything it'll help me see what I was doing wrong during those games.

I want to play Qwark in SF4 to see how good he is at that game lol.