"I win. I always win." - The Official General Zod Discussion Thread

[SimSim]

SimSim

I fly out if town for work Thursday - sat and Thursday I have nothing to do from. 7pm till I go to bed 2am

Hitbox practice it is

Yay! Does this mean on stream btw? 7pm for you should be 1am for me, which is a time I can work with Also, do you have any contact information to the guys who make hitboxes, and do you think they would be willing to ship to Norway (If I payed ofc). I might be interested in buying one!

 

[xInfra Deadx]

Sadly, I have huge sausage fingers. I often roll over other directions using the Dpad

That blows...but honestly, if I was still playing pad, the last thing I want to touch are the analog pads. On PS2 pads, the sticks are so sensitive that if I touch them it sticks to that certain direction and throws my game off bad.

 

[Groove Heaven]

On pad I actually try to make my inputs clean. I do u, d, b+1 ...but I do it very quickly. There's no easy way to do it on pad, it seems, and doing u, d+b+1 doesn't seem to work. To be honest I find it extremely difficult to consistently machine gun them. It's not like MK9 where you could get away with crazy negative edge shit like Kabal's IAGB (u+b, u+b+1).

 

[Pig Of The Hut]

Do you dabble with the analog stick perchance?

I always rip mine off

 

[Pig Of The Hut]

Yay! Does this mean on stream btw? 7pm for you should be 1am for me, which is a time I can work with Also, do you have any contact information to the guys who make hitboxes, and do you think they would be willing to ship to Norway (If I payed ofc). I might be interested in buying one!

Possibly
If I can find my 4g card or if hotel Internet is good then yes

 

[SimSim]

Possibly
If I can find my 4g card or if hotel Internet is good then yes

Good stuff! Fingers crossed

 

[Pig Of The Hut]

Good stuff! Fingers crossed

I have to say me streaming it might be awful

It'll look like I've never played the game ever w hit box

 

[godlessmode]

I have to say me streaming it might be awful

It'll look like I've never played the game ever w hit box

When I was learning the hitbox I ALWAYS mixed up the up/down buttons. It got to the point where I was using the damn thing in platformers just to try and break the muscle memory that was throwing me off.

 

[SimSim]

I have to say me streaming it might be awful

It'll look like I've never played the game ever w hit box

Haha it could be interesting to see someone try to adapt to hitbox as I might try it myself

Also: Is there any actual "evidence" that supports the set up on the hitbox that is:
Left-Down-Right-Up? I could see myself trying: UP-Left-Right-Down

 

[godlessmode]

Also: Is there any actual "evidence" that supports the set up on the hitbox that is:
Left-Down-Right-Up? I could see myself trying: UP-Left-Right-Down

It has to do with typical fighting game inputs. Of the four cardinal directions 3 are heavily utilized for standard special inputs, and one is used only for specific cases and movement.

Having it this way makes things like D~F, F~D~F, B~D~F, etc. all able to be input as a standard Piano Roll.

Other than TK or IA moves UP is only really used to jump/move around and rarely needs to be "Pianoed".

Also, once you start thinking about jump like a jump button - pressing it with your right thumb feels very much like pressing "A" on a standard controller.

It was a total mind-fuck to learn. But in retrospect I don't believe it would be as viable with Up/Down inverted.

 

[R3CK3Dx]

Supp guys anyone got any tips on what to do when I'm being rushed down or in the corner I have no trouble full screen when I can get zod balls trait and lasers of but at certain ranges I don't know my best options mostly at close to mid any tips?

 

[godlessmode]

Supp guys anyone got any tips on what to do when I'm being rushed down or in the corner I have no trouble full screen when I can get zod balls trait and lasers of but at certain ranges I don't know my best options mostly at close to mid any tips?

Zod should generally own mid range because of how fast Zod-Charge is. It should be making people afraid to do much within it's reach. You have to be careful, because it is punishable, but in general you can do it on reaction at this range and win or trade at worst.

Dealing with Rushdown when at close range:
d1,2 and counter are your friends here. I mostly find myself using d1,2 as a poke and hit confirming/block confirming it to laser/PS.

Also, I don't see many people doing this but I abuse the shit out of block strings into PS. I end almost every blocked normal with it.

If I don't have my trait ready, I generally don't want to be within mid or close range and focus my efforts on making space.

 

[NY_Jailhouse]

i get mine so low it makes cyborg obsolete.

what does that mean?
you cant do instant air zod balls in the same manner as cyborg. WAY too slow/youl get punished severely if you try to do an extended string of them like you can at times with cyborg


and nah iazb doesnt really do anything against the tippity top sinestros at all imo

 

[Zyphox]

what does that mean?
you cant do instant air zod balls in the same manner as cyborg. WAY too slow/youl get punished severely if you try to do an extended string of them like you can at times with cyborg


and nah iazb doesnt really do anything against the tippity top sinestros at all imo

nah what am talking about is something like IAZB fast version then either MB ground laser or pistol, or slow ball into fast ball, not continuous like cyborgs but more deadly imo. IAZB into MB ground laser is really good for zoning.

 

[Pig Of The Hut]

and nah iazb doesnt really do anything against the tippity top sinestros at all imo

absolute not true

 

[NY_Jailhouse]

meh i would always just get hit out of it with fear blast or rocked because of how fucking slow it is

 

[Pig Of The Hut]

nah what am talking about is something like IAZB fast version then either MB ground laser or pistol, or slow ball into fast ball, not continuous like cyborgs but more deadly imo. IAZB into MB ground laser is really good for zoning.

and a full screen frame trap

if they jump any ball you get far laser mb aa for free

 

[Colonel-Gilgamesh]

What Top Sinestro's are you two respectively referring to?

 

[SimSim]

and a full screen frame trap

if they jump any ball you get far laser mb aa for free

I was wondering about this. Is there trip guard in injustice for neutral empty jumps?

 

[Pig Of The Hut]

SimSim

are there better dmg combos for 1-2 bars?

 

[Pig Of The Hut]

What Top Sinestro's are you two respectively referring to?

Playing to Win
Woundcowboy

 

[SimSim]

SimSim

are there better dmg combos for 1-2 bars?

I haven't explored juggling with f21u2, good stuff. I like to end with j3 xx air zod charge for the corps hop tech some times, but that's not for the damage though. Also when starting the croner combo from anything but a f3, you can do f3 after the last air fireball, and then 123 xx ender (I don't think I have seen you do this when landing it)

Btw, after the corps hop I like to do b12 xx mb laser, it is at a distance where you will get a launch from the mb laser in the corner, + it's faster than f2 after the hop.

 

[NHDR]

Are there any good Zod players who don't rely on the instant air KR? I know its good for some of his cross-up setups but I'm having issues getting it down consistently on a 360 d-pad.

 

[Pig Of The Hut]

Are there any good Zod players who don't rely on the instant air KR? I know its good for some of his cross-up setups but I'm having issues getting it down consistently on a 360 d-pad.

I use it for specific MUs only

Also I use ps2 pad for ps and Xbox w converter

 

[Colonel-Gilgamesh]

Has anyone run into a good Lobo yet? He's probably the most improved character to the point where his whole game has been revamped, changed, and amplified. I am curious to see one function.......Also I'm running Lobo and want to steal some shit.