Match-up Discussion Shazams true Match up Chart.

[ZigZag]

I want to put the final numbers on now the 1.06 patch is out and will probably be the final patch, I can say this is how I see alot of the MU's through watching top players play at events, through personal experience and a little input from you guys i'm sure will make these numbers tight.

No matchup charts are legit, that's the truth.

Spoiler

Bane 5-5
Hawk girl 5-5
Lex Luthor 5.5-4.5
Cyborg 5-5
Lobo 5-5
Flash - 4-6
Grundy 6-4
Green lantern 4-6
Harley - 4-6
Joker 5-5


Ares 5-5
Catwoman 5-5
Deathstroke 3.5-6.5
Batman 4-6
Superman 4-6
NightWing 4-6
Green Arrow
Raven - 4-6
Wonder Woman - 4-6

Aquaman 4-6
Black Adam 3-7
Doomsday 6-4
Killer Frost 3-7
Sinestro 4-6
Batgirl 5-5
Scorpion 5-5
General Zod 4-6
Zantanna 5-5
Martian Man Hunter 4-6

feel free to discuss the numbers, Please do not leave comments such as "Why is "Name" 5-5?"

Please just give your input on why you think otherwise and we will discuss it politely, Let's not pull up credibility and or tournament players, Sure as some tournament players prove they know the Match ups very well, that's of course not how you make a MU Chart.

 

[Raidenwins]

Can you explain those numbers? Such as, why a match-up is 5-5, for example. A few sentences per match-up would be good.

 

[RYX]

Lobo is a 6-4
DS is 3-7 IMO

KF is also 4-6. Safer, faster, and a better 50/50

 

[ZigZag]

Lobo is a 6-4
DS is 3-7 IMO

6-4 to Shazam over lobo? Not with his Nuclear shells, he plays the get away game on shazam pretty well, but is in danger up close.
I mean perhaps, I've played a bit with Ketchups Lobo and he's got a solid lobo but further experimentation could be reasonable.

DS 3-7? I still believe he has an advantage over Shazam but maybe not that large.

 

[ZigZag]

Can you explain those numbers? Such as, why a match-up is 5-5, for example. A few sentences per match-up would be good.

I'll get round to it soon enough.

 

[RYX]

6-4 to Shazam over lobo? Not with his Nuclear shells, he plays the get away game on shazam pretty well, but is in danger up close.
I mean perhaps, I've played a bit with Ketchups Lobo and he's got a solid lobo but further experimentation could be reasonable.

DS 3-7? I still believe he has an advantage over Shazam but maybe not that large.

As someone who's played DS for a long time I honestly can't tell you when I lost to Shazam. And I have two really good Shazam players in my clan haha

 

[Zoidberg747]

I dont play the MU that often but I would assume Raven beats him 6-4.

Might be wrong, who knows.

 

[ZigZag]

I dont play the MU that often but I would assume Raven beats him 6-4.

Might be wrong, who knows.

No Raven I've ever played has seemed to had too much advantage over me as other Zoners do, but It could possibly be 6-4.

 

[xKhaoTik]

There's absolute NO WAY shazam goes even with Frost.

 

[Pig Of The Hut]

 

[Blind_Ducky]

Why do people ALWAYS make mu numbers with Raven after playing discount Ravens? That mu is not 5-5.

 

[ZigZag]

There's absolute NO WAY shazam goes even with Frost.

Thus why I said I haven't had much insight into it, Just throw me the reasons why not.

 

[ZigZag]

Why do people ALWAYS make mu numbers with Raven after playing discount Ravens? That mu is not 5-5.

Because no one plays Raven here, like no one.

 

[Blind_Ducky]

Because no one plays Raven here, like no one.

Then don't put a numbeeeer.

 

[Pig Of The Hut]

Thus why I said I haven't had much insight into it, Just throw me the reasons why not.

THEN How about

1. dont put a number

2. or dont make a chart yet..............?

 

[Qwark28]

Because no one plays Raven here, like no one.

ill play you, i used to 2nd raven

 

[Blind_Ducky]

ill play you, i used to 2nd raven

That will not help determine the mu number either.

 

[xKhaoTik]

Thus why I said I haven't had much insight into it, Just throw me the reasons why not.

So that's when you say "N/A due to lack of exp". You can't just label a MU without even at least having some high level exp.

Anyways, there's not much he can do. Zones him, beats him upclose, better 50/50s, safer, etc.

 

[Qwark28]

That will not help determine the mu number either.

it will show some things raven can do, its better than nothing at all considering he has never played a raven.

 

[ZigZag]

So that's when you say "N/A due to lack of exp". You can't just label a MU without even at least having some high level exp.

Anyways, there's not much he can do. Zones him, beats him upclose, better 50/50s, safer, etc.

I can do what i like on my thread doe!

Yeah her Zoning games pretty vicious, Shazam has ways of Dealing with her Slide up close, When you guess right you can still punish it for decent damage, but I think the timing is extremely strict.

 

[Blind_Ducky]

it will show some things raven can do, its better than nothing at all considering he has never played a raven.

He will probably think it's 6-4 Shazam or something. If someone wants to make an mu chart and hasn't played me then don't put a number for Raven.

 

[ZigZag]

it will show some things raven can do, its better than nothing at all considering he has never played a raven.

I never claimed to not having never played any Decent ravens, just that I've not had Much experience with them since the patch.

 

[A F0xy Grampa]

Where's this WoWo number coming from?
I curb stomp Shazams, he cant keep her out, and doesnt have enough range to contest with B1 and B2

 

[xKhaoTik]

He will probably think it's 6-4 Shazam or something. If someone wants to make an mu chart and hasn't played me then don't put a number for Raven.

I feel the same way about KF

 

[ZigZag]

Where's this WoWo number coming from?
I curb stomp Shazams

Foxy you're not playing Good Shazams clearly, I've played alot of the WW MU now, no doubt yours has been the best i've played and we should play more sometime, But I don't think she has advantage over Shazam.