The_Swagtator
Noob
no you dont you dont break armor with lvl 3 and its a still bad trade to me since your doing 15 to possibly more damage than we are
Yes, we do break armor with lvl 3 Venom.
Are you new to Bane? Level 3 venom has always broken armor.
It's just funny how we disagree on the Raven and GL match ups. There is no way Raven is tougher than GL. Even if Raven gets off the ground, we can armor through pretty much everything. That's not the case with GL.
Raven is so much tougher than GL. Play Blind Man and tell me that's not a hard MU. Also they both have the same problem you just described since if GL gets off the ground he doesn't have anything a double punch/command grab won't cute. Raven can at least shut our momentum down with the threat of crushes from further distance AND she has 2 full-screen options without burning meter, something GL lacks.
Tell Grundy to use his super on wake-up. Pump to level 3 venom and hit him with f.2.
I played a ton of matches against some solid Raven players, and I just don't get it. I'll say the same thing you say about GL. You can block/dash her grabs. Meter is really irrelevant because they can both build meter easily against us.
Yeah but we don't suffer in that "one-dash" range, so against GL its just a matter of walking in. I've played a ton of matches against solid GLs and Ravens, I can say for sure Raven is definitely the scarier one. Only difference is she has a lot more damage potential for her meter, and her mobility isn't complete ass. She gets full screen and you can be garenteed to eat at least 3 or 4 pillars for free if she doesn't tele away from your charge, and if those land she can MB them for huge unclashable damage.
Don't know where you heard about the normalizations, but honestly I don't see anything bad happening to Bane. What are they going to normalize, our sub-par venomless damage? Our situational level 3 damage? Because frankly I'm doubtful theres much that would genuinely make Bane worse to the point of being bottom.
They're going to give us little to nothing as everyone else below Bane gets stronger. That's how he gets to the bottom.
For them to buff Lex to get rid of all of his Bad MUs and make Joker a dominant force, they would have to tip the game so far into the bottom's favor that Bane would be incapable being bottom because of all of those falling around him.
Why are you making a complete match up chart when you didn't even know something as important as level 3 venomed specials breaking armor? You were testing it with special moves like double punch, right?
The normalization part was talked about in the MMH stream today. They basically said they were taking their time with the next patch and that there was quite a few buffs as well as "normalizations" they were planning on doing. Personally I think Bane will come out fine from this. I'm sure he will get a small buff or two, and the nerfs to the top tiers will only further help our rise to the top...of mid tier. Also I'm totally fine with my boy Lex getting all the help he can get. He needs it.
That's what I'm thinking as well, hopefully something to our f.2 (-7 would be nothing short of godlike) and maybe something to help us out like a walk speed buff or something. I dunno, probably small stuff but its all welcome.
I completely agree with you. Green Lantern can definitely mess with our head with threat of b1, minigun, lift, mb rockets, etc. Raven is pretty straight forward.
As I said, play blind-man. Her f.2(?) has 2 quick hits which is imo much better than b.1 because if we try to keep armoring on through she can tag us. Also, all it takes is one charge for GL too, especially off of a baited minigun or a blocked one in close range. You can charge practically blindly against GL since most of the time you'll be able to block anything he has coming out. You can't do the same with Raven and her attacks really aren't all that bad on block at the distance she is strongest.
We would be charging in response to a baited minigun
F2 is awesome. The match up is 5-5.
If they block the d2, it is also a free grab. So that is one of the better OS's. Problem is only like against the jump, it doesn't finish the grab, just juggles d2. Before the d2 change d1 was the go to for this. D2 kinda lines up just perfectly for some of the match ups.
Actually d.2 always operated like this. This has been an OS for some months now.